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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
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    #275

    Man, you've always had the best sounding E30's.
    New wheels look great!

    ...

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    • YoungCRY
      YoungCRY
      YoungCR
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      #276

      KaiserRolls said:

      l cant get the YouTube vid to embed for whatever reason, probably because it’s unlisted(?)

      Fixed, I adjusted the embedded content width to 800px from 500px. Youtube was requesting 560px haha. Car sounds great! I should really come up to Shawano and watch being its 40 min away.

      Chris Young
      BMWCCA #458972
      1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
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        #277

        YoungCR said:

        Fixed, I adjusted the embedded content width to 800px from 500px. Youtube was requesting 560px haha. Car sounds great! I should really come up to Shawano and watch being its 40 min away.

        Thanks Chris! Once they start allowing spectators/ride alongs I think it would be worth it.

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
          wrote on last edited by
          #278

          Well, measured the breakaway torque of the diff over my lunch...ended up ordering a 3 clutch setup from Thayer Motorsport and everything I need to replace the leaky input shaft seal. Should be a fun project

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            B
            Boris3
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            #279

            What was the breakaway #?

            1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
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              #280

              Boris3 said:

              What was the breakaway #?

              40ish on a cold diff. I noticed throughout each run it would slip more and more. Based on what I could find on metric mechanic for a 2 clutch diff w/45° ramp angle in good shape It should be around 58ftlbs.

              75DA3EB6-7E25-4F1E-828A-A680052F947A.jpeg
               

              Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

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              • HipMFH
                HipMFH
                HipMF
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                #281

                KaiserRolls said:

                40ish on a cold diff. I noticed throughout each run it would slip more and more. Based on what I could find on metric mechanic for a 2 clutch diff w/45° ramp angle in good shape It should be around 58ftlbs.

                75DA3EB6-7E25-4F1E-828A-A680052F947A.jpeg
                 

                Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

                Science!

                I wonder why the MM units have a lower breakaway torque though?

                I've had this happen a couple times, but I just figured it was just a compromise with F/R handling bias. You could get more weight on the inside rear by removing the rear sway bar, but yeah, no thanks.

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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRolls
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                  #282

                  HipMF said:

                  Science!

                  I wonder why the MM units have a lower breakaway torque though?

                  I've had this happen a couple times, but I just figured it was just a compromise with F/R handling bias. You could get more weight on the inside rear by removing the rear sway bar, but yeah, no thanks.

                  Ramp angle & less initial lockup is my guess

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                    Boris3
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                    #283

                    KaiserRolls said:

                    Doesn’t spec e30 cap it around 65ftlbs?

                    Yep that's why I asked. I was curious.

                    Per the latest rule set: test "at the center hub nut, using a 30mm or 32mm socket and commercially available ½” torque wrench. The car will be placed on solid pavement, the right side of the car will be jacked up until the right rear tire is free from the pavement, the transmission will be placed in neutral, and the parking brake, if present, will be released. The torque wrench will be placed at the nine o’clock position with the socket on the center nut. The torque wrench will be set at 65 lb.-ft. and pushed down.If the differential does not breakaway prior to the torque wrench “breaking away,” a second and similar style torque wrench from an impartial party shall be used in a second test, immediately following the first test. If the differential does not breakaway using the second torque wrench, the car will be disqualified from the preceding race and the DQ will be noted in the car’s logbook."

                    I replaced my original after a wreck in 2014 with a used 3.73 only to find that it tested at 44ftlbs. Not good. My current one is a used Korman-built 3.73 that tests at 65ftlb. Much better.

                    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #284

                      Boris3 said:

                      Yep that's why I asked. I was curious.

                      Per the latest rule set: test "at the center hub nut, using a 30mm or 32mm socket and commercially available ½” torque wrench. The car will be placed on solid pavement, the right side of the car will be jacked up until the right rear tire is free from the pavement, the transmission will be placed in neutral, and the parking brake, if present, will be released. The torque wrench will be placed at the nine o’clock position with the socket on the center nut. The torque wrench will be set at 65 lb.-ft. and pushed down.If the differential does not breakaway prior to the torque wrench “breaking away,” a second and similar style torque wrench from an impartial party shall be used in a second test, immediately following the first test. If the differential does not breakaway using the second torque wrench, the car will be disqualified from the preceding race and the DQ will be noted in the car’s logbook."

                      I replaced my original after a wreck in 2014 with a used 3.73 only to find that it tested at 44ftlbs. Not good. My current one is a used Korman-built 3.73 that tests at 65ftlb. Much better.  

                      Phew, glad I tested it correctly lol. 
                      also glad to hear you could feel how sloppy it was around 40ish, confirms my suspicions.

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                      • HipMFH
                        HipMFH
                        HipMF
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                        #285

                        KaiserRolls said:

                        Ramp angle

                        Hmm. Learned something new today.

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #286

                          HipMF said:

                          Hmm. Learned something new today.

                          Ever since Sunday I have been trying to school myself in differentials. It’s mostly black magic and gear lube

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                            B C
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                            #287

                            there was once the most elaborate e30 m3 restoration thread on r3v maybe 7-8 years ago which I remember having great detail for the diff rebuild. Its so nice that EVERYTHING on a BMW is so well documented with multiple sources, so here’s the next best thing I have found.

                            http://buildraceparty.com/diy-tech-how-to-rebuild-a-bmw-e30-differential/

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #288

                              B C said:

                              there was once the most elaborate e30 m3 restoration thread on r3v maybe 7-8 years ago which I remember having great detail for the diff rebuild. Its so nice that EVERYTHING on a BMW is so well documented with multiple sources, so here’s the next best thing I have found.

                              http://buildraceparty.com/diy-tech-how-to-rebuild-a-bmw-e30-differential/
                               

                              I’ll be using that one, Thayer’s instructions and copious amounts of photos. @AsparagusMike just recently did his as well and has some photos.  
                               

                              this one has a helpful parts explosion and then turns into an ad for MM. 

                              https://metricmechanic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Differentials.pdf

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #289

                                I also forgot to mention I ended up going with the “performance” 3 clutch setup instead of the “street” 3 clutch setup. I was worried about too much lockup (similar preload as a 2 clutch, but now with 3 discs) inducing understeer on turn-in 

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  #290

                                  This may seem dumb but I finally found a usb charger that doesn’t look like a giant tumor with 6 bright LEDs sticking 8” off the console. 
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                                  https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00M6QODH2?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

                                  diff refresh parts are slowly rolling in as well. Hopefully have everything by Tuesday

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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    B C
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                                    #291

                                    Much more useful than a cigar lighter

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                                    • SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlueS
                                      SteelBlue
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #292

                                      B C said:

                                      Much more useful than a cigar lighter

                                      You don't smoke cubans in your E30?

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                                      • HipMFH
                                        HipMFH
                                        HipMF
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #293

                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        This may seem dumb but I finally found a usb charger that doesn’t look like a giant tumor with 6 bright LEDs sticking 8” off the console.

                                        I bought the exact same one a couple years ago for the same reasons. Still charges things. Since it only has one job, that's a win in my book.

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRolls
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                                          #294

                                          Road America was a lot of fun. Surface was slick like usual since the repave. 
                                           

                                          raw: http://fvscc.com/results/2020_Summer/Event1_raw.htm

                                          class: http://www.fvscc.com/results/2020_Summer/Event1_fin.htm

                                          My fastest run:

                                          It was good seeing @AsparagusMike & @suspenceful out and about. Veggie mikes car sounds great as always and Spence’s ///m looks glorious

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