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Tossed a different set of wheels on the 240 today...

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  • The Full BananaT
    The Full BananaT
    The Full Banana
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    #196

    Snap said:

    I dig the integral WG + integral BOV turbos kinugawa makes. About half the price of the Borg Warners. They have a couple other hard-ish to find odds and ends too like a bolt-on AN fitting for the oil return. Nice torque curve for a single cam! Are you toying with the idea of a bmw i6 swap?

    Integral WG & BOV/CBV is so convenient for packaging. They do offer quite a bit of interesting stuff, but I'd have a hard time trusting their turbos themselves. That's actually why I only bought the compressor housing and compressor wheel from them, and used my original Mitubishi cartridge.

    I've been toying with either a m52b28 or a volvo T6 (b6284t) swap. At the moment I'm leaning toward the volvo T6 just for the weird factor (and I have a friend who designed some mounts for that block to fit in my chassis). That said, it'll probably be a year or two until I do anything... getting too excited here.

    Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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    • The Full BananaT
      The Full BananaT
      The Full Banana
      wrote on last edited by
      #197

      I've been busy. Putting a 5 cyl volvo engine into my 242. 

      Here's what's going on.

      Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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      • YoungCRY
        YoungCRY
        YoungCR
        wrote on last edited by
        #198

        What's the hp gain? Nice job on the fabrication.

        Chris Young
        BMWCCA #458972
        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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        • Bassboy3313B
          Bassboy3313B
          Bassboy3313
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          #199

          Some awesome work you're doing!!

          CHECK OUT >>> RAGE DRIFT DESIGNS <<< FOR DECALS AND MORE!

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          • straight6pwrS
            straight6pwrS
            straight6pwr
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            #200

            don't know crap about volvo 5 cyl engines, but what kind of HP can it handle? based on what you are replacing you must be shooting for 400+?

            Dan
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            • The Full BananaT
              The Full BananaT
              The Full Banana
              wrote on last edited by
              #201

              YoungCR said:

              What's the hp gain? Nice job on the fabrication.

              Thanks. Power will all depend on how much boost, from what turbo, I run. Stock against stock, the b230ft 4 cylinder I was running was rated at 160hp from the factory, and the b5234t 5 cylinder I'm using now was rated at 240hp from the factory... although all of that is more or less irrelevant at this point of modification. Some claim that the 4 cylinders can hold more power, but it really comes down to preference. I wanted a newer, modern, smooth running engine, without getting too heavy. 

              I'm not a fan of compromising driveability for an arbitrary number that makes my car internetcool, BUT I'd like to see 380-420whp with very little lag and rather wide powerband. I plan to sell my soul for a Garrett GTX3067r, which is going to be the secret to a good amount of power with great response.

              Bassboy3313 said:

              Some awesome work you're doing!!

              Thanks Dave. I really owe you a ride... we'll have to coordinate a day this summer when both of our cars are out and the sun is shining. 

              straight6pwr said:

              don't know crap about volvo 5 cyl engines, but what kind of HP can it handle? based on what you are replacing you must be shooting for 400+?

              I wouldn't be worried about running this up to 500whp as it sits. The factory rods are the weak point, and I replaced those with forged h-beam units. The 5 cylinder is nice because it's such a nice tidy package. I chose it for a few reasons...

              1. Internals for Volvo engines are cheaper than BMW engines 

              2. I got the majority of the parts needed for a massive discount because I know others who are 5 cyl afficionados

              3. buying 5 of everything is a lot cheaper than buying 6 of everything. 

              4. this 5 cylinder is lighter, keeps the weight lower and farther back toward the center of the car.

              Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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              • The Full BananaT
                The Full BananaT
                The Full Banana
                wrote on last edited by
                #202

                More. 

                I've been a bit lazy lately--I just want the garage to be warm already!

                The head, waterpump, and pan are on now. I did a quick test fit of the alternator and power steering pump. Now that I know that all works, I can pull it back off and send some things out for blasting & finishing. 

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                I just got the valve cover back with two 10an bungs welded on (with baffles). I need to decide on a color for powdercoating the cam cover, and once that is done I can put the cams in and install the cam cover for good. 

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                Here's the same transmission I used with the 4 cyl--a getrag 265 from a '85 e28 535i. I intend to use this with the 5 cyl as well. I love the way it feels and seeing how all of the other incidentals are already in place, might as well keep using it. I'm in the process of drawing up a bellhousing adapter plate that will mate the getrag to a Volvo 960 bellhousing that I also have around. Can't wait to get that done... this is a bit of a learning process. 

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                Another step coming up shortly is to modify the waterpipe. I have a Volvo 960 pipe ready to be modified as needed, but I'm going to wait to do anything with it until I have the turbo in hand. I *think* I want to do a GTX3067R and make use of the external wastegate flange already on the manifold. Admittedly, I'm a bit anxious about making that decision.

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                Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
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                  #203

                  Those are such "busy" looking castings. It makes the engine look very industrial and cyborg-like.

                  I dont think im making sense.

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                  • The Full BananaT
                    The Full BananaT
                    The Full Banana
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #204

                    Snap said:

                    Those are such "busy" looking castings. It makes the engine look very industrial and cyborg-like.

                    I dont think im making sense. 

                    They really are. Complete nightmare to clean. 

                    I'll toss camgears on soon to give it a bit more johnny 5/cyborg look.

                    Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                    • straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwr
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #205

                      Snap said:

                      Those are such "busy" looking castings. It makes the engine look very industrial and cyborg-like.

                      I dont think im making sense. 

                      would make a great coffee table engine, especially with a big fat turbo bolted to it.

                      Dan
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                      • The Full BananaT
                        The Full BananaT
                        The Full Banana
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #206

                        straight6pwr said:

                        would make a great coffee table engine, especially with a big fat turbo bolted to it.

                        Yeah, a friend in Chicago is doing that with one of his spare engines of this type.

                        Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                        • The Full BananaT
                          The Full BananaT
                          The Full Banana
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #207

                          Now onto one of the harder parts of this swap: making a transmission work with this engine

                          And after lots of measuring, I drew up the bellhousing adapter this morning.

                          Bellhousing side

                          Transmission side

                          Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                          • B
                            B
                            B C
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #208

                            I love seeing self-designed parts on peoples builds. Are you going to send the 3D file to a machine shop or are you going to give them a dimensioned print? If machining it from a block of alum is too pricey then I would have it quoted as 2 separate laser burnouts (plate) that get welded together and ground flat.

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                            • JeffJ
                              JeffJ
                              Jeff
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #209

                              Custom parts are awsome!

                              If you are looking for a place to make it let me know. Send me a file and I'll send you a price

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              1976 530i e12
                              1990 325ix e30
                              1992 325i e36
                              1995 740il e38
                              2001 330xi e46
                              ^More to come :)

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                              • The Full BananaT
                                The Full BananaT
                                The Full Banana
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #210

                                Snap said:

                                I love seeing self-designed parts on peoples builds. Are you going to send the 3D file to a machine shop or are you going to give them a dimensioned print? If machining it from a block of alum is too pricey then I would have it quoted as 2 separate laser burnouts (plate) that get welded together and ground flat.

                                Yeah, this was fun to do. Definitely the most complex/crucial part I've designed before. The thought is to send the 3D file, but if that doesn't work I can supply dimensioned drawings. I'm planning on having it machined out of one chunk. Material isn't cheap, but that's why eBay exists 😎

                                Jeff said:

                                Custom parts are awsome!

                                If you are looking for a place to make it let me know. Send me a file and I'll send you a price

                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                Thanks, I'll send you a message! I don't yet have a plan for getting this machined.

                                Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                                • JeffJ
                                  JeffJ
                                  Jeff
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                                  #211

                                  Thanks, I'll send you a message! I don't yet have a plan for getting this machined.

                                  Can't wait to check it out. I have a supplier for material I work with so material may not be as expensive as you think.

                                  1976 530i e12
                                  1990 325ix e30
                                  1992 325i e36
                                  1995 740il e38
                                  2001 330xi e46
                                  ^More to come :)

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                                  • R
                                    R
                                    Rowleym
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                                    #212

                                    I also have capabilities to turn this around quickly as well, and I'm sure no one can beat my prices. But I understand Jeff got first dibs. Just putting this out there if he might not have time etc.

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                                    sk8 or die

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                                    • The Full BananaT
                                      The Full BananaT
                                      The Full Banana
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                                      #213

                                      ...I got the transmission adapter plate! Very relieved to have this done. Jeff did an awesome job. I highly recommend him. 

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                                      I threw a bunch of money at a proper pressure plate. It's a Sachs 707. I'll use this with a single mass flywheel from a Volvo 850 and the same organic e34 M5 clutch disc I used previously. Here's hoping it's not terrible to drive, but holds all the power I'll ever need.

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                                      I found a pilot bearing to suit the 5 cyl crank and getrag 265.

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                                      Pulled the old engine wiring out and labeled some things so I don't forget. I need to find a good place to mount the megasquirt shortly. 

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                                      Tom - I have a few BMWs, an overworked Volvo 242, and now a YouTube channel called Drive, Revive, Tinker

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                                      • YoungCRY
                                        YoungCRY
                                        YoungCR
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #214

                                        The adapter is a beauty!

                                        Chris Young
                                        BMWCCA #458972
                                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRollsK
                                          KaiserRolls
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                                          #215

                                          Gosh dang that's a really neat piece

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