Non-BMW Stuff on a BMW Forum
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This was an absolute blast and the e30 did wonderfully. Thanks again for letting me drive it--it was a pleasure!
Hands down the best automotive enthusiast-related event I've done.
This was going to be my question, what did you guys think of the rally? Worth doing it? Where did the rally route run?
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This was going to be my question, what did you guys think of the rally? Worth doing it? Where did the rally route run?
It was 100% worth it. And same as Tom, the best automotive event I've attended. I tend to find most car meets/shows unappealing as I generally don't like the crowds there - I always feel like most people are there to recruit instagram followers. But because of the nature of this event, people were there because they wanted to drive their car. To me, everyone there was great. All the Porsche guys we were following were excited to have us follow along and they loved the e30. Also, the noises made by following a group of air cooled 911s was nothing to complain about. And if we got lost, all we had to do was follow smell of exhaust and burning oil.
This is the map of Day 1. Day 2 was a little more relaxed, but the same general concept from La Crosse to Prairie Du Chien.
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But because of the nature of this event, people were there because they wanted to drive their car.
I sense an autox in your future
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I sense an autox in your future
To be honest, I think this made me want to do autox less. Back country driving with the windows down is what I have always enjoyed most and this was the epitome of that. I cannot say enough how idyllic the driving experience was. Autox would just be a let down to me.
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To be honest, I think this made me want to do autox less. Back country driving with the windows down is what I have always enjoyed most and this was the epitome of that. I cannot say enough how idyllic the driving experience was. Autox would just be a let down to me.
get that BBK installed so you never miss a good 4-way stop at an intersection
edit - everything I do is sarcastic, don’t take me seriously on here
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get that BBK installed so you never miss a good 4-way stop at an intersection
edit - everything I do is sarcastic, don’t take me seriously on here
I'm more concerned about the bikers and walkers after I turn the Ozaukee interurban trail into my personal rally course.
Sway bar upgrades reduce the amount of coffee spilled on your lap in a corner.
edit - I'm friends with Kaiser
That'd also help keep my donut holes from rolling out of my lap and onto the floor.
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Back country driving with the windows down is what I have always enjoyed most and this was the epitome of that. I cannot say enough how idyllic the driving experience was.
I echo this sentiment.
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Since suspension is on the punch list for the winter - what are some of you running and how do you like it? I know there are some coilover options, but I will likely not be going that route due to the cost and that they're not a direct swap (and the ones that are a direct swap are even more money).
I'm leaning towards Koni Yellows with Ireland Engineering springs. Something semi-comfortable enough to DD, but can take some punishment.
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This might help offer some comparisons.
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Since suspension is on the punch list for the winter - what are some of you running and how do you like it? I know there are some coilover options, but I will likely not be going that route due to the cost and that they're not a direct swap (and the ones that are a direct swap are even more money).
I'm leaning towards Koni Yellows with Ireland Engineering springs. Something semi-comfortable enough to DD, but can take some punishment.
That would be a good combo.
Unless something has changes recently I prefer the ride height of the H&R race. The IE appeared to sit a bit taller in front. Even at that I was running E90 spring hats up front to lower it another 10mm, but that was an attempt to even out the proportions on a late model with the lower rear wheel arches. While aesthetics were secondary to driving enjoyment, the way the IE looked on a late model bothered me.
That spring rate with a Bilstein sport damper is slightly overdamped so I think the Konis are a great pick.
Top it off with a set of sway bars it will make the stock suspension feel like you were once driving a bobblehead doll -
I have IE3 springs and Bilstein sport dampers and overall I like how they handle and ride. Compared to the vogtlands I had before that were way too soft for the bilsteins, the stiffer spring rates have eliminated hitting the front bump stops like I was before (though that was with drop hats) and arguably ride a lot better because of it. What I don't like is how the car sits. The back is right where I'd like it to be but the front feels like its a full inch too high. Its particularly worse on my car because I run fixed camber plates that add about 1/4" of height.
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That would be a good combo.
Unless something has changes recently I prefer the ride height of the H&R race. The IE appeared to sit a bit taller in front. Even at that I was running E90 spring hats up front to lower it another 10mm, but that was an attempt to even out the proportions on a late model with the lower rear wheel arches. While aesthetics were secondary to driving enjoyment, the way the IE looked on a late model bothered me.
That spring rate with a Bilstein sport damper is slightly overdamped so I think the Konis are a great pick.
Top it off with a set of sway bars it will make the stock suspension feel like you were once driving a bobblehead dollI'll have to look into how the IE springs sit more. While aesthetics are secondary, that would bother me to the point that I'd need to change them. I haven't had Konis in any of my cars yet, but I have had Bilsteins and they've always seemed kind of "crashy" to me.
The car has, what I believe are Bilstien HDs with IE springs. But the springs appear to be really old and the HDs are quite blown. The car failed the bumper bounce test when I got home from the Rally.
It currently has a front ebay sway bar. What's your thought on sways in front and back or just the front?
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I have IE3 springs and Bilstein sport dampers and overall I like how they handle and ride. Compared to the vogtlands I had before that were way too soft for the bilsteins, the stiffer spring rates have eliminated hitting the front bump stops like I was before (though that was with drop hats) and arguably ride a lot better because of it. What I don't like is how the car sits. The back is right where I'd like it to be but the front feels like its a full inch too high. Its particularly worse on my car because I run fixed camber plates that add about 1/4" of height.
I'd have to compare the HR Race vs IE springs. They seems to have the same rates according to that table, but maybe their heights are a little different.
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Yes, H&R race sit lower in front. Here is mine with E90 drop hats.
@KaiserRolls can comment on the suspension more since he now owns the car and did a few autocross with the H&R race setup. My only track day was on H&R SPORT + suspension techniques 22mm/19mm sway bars. I felt the car was really responsive, excellent turn-in and predictability. Changing the springs to H&R Race only made it better.
i’d recommend front and rear sways with reinforcements
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If you really care, get the dampers valved to match the rates you want, or get rates that work with the stock valving.
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Hey guys. So I’m going to keep the stock brakes but get a better pad. What’s your preferences? I’ve read a lot of back and forth between Stoptech and Hawk HPS but I always like to hear some first hand experience from people who have used various pads or something they’ve had good luck with.
I’ve always used cheaper factory equivalent pads on my cars so I don’t have any experiences with performance pads. I’ve pushed this e30 harder than I have my other cars and have had a couple oh shit moments coming up to a turn.
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Hey guys. So I’m going to keep the stock brakes but get a better pad. What’s your preferences? I’ve read a lot of back and forth between Stoptech and Hawk HPS but I always like to hear some first hand experience from people who have used various pads or something they’ve had good luck with.
I’ve always used cheaper factory equivalent pads on my cars so I don’t have any experiences with performance pads. I’ve pushed this e30 harder than I have my other cars and have had a couple oh shit moments coming up to a turn.
Are you concerned with noise/dust?
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Are you concerned with noise/dust?
Not really.
I always go down these stupid rabbit holes of mundane things like what brake pads to get.
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Not really.
I always go down these stupid rabbit holes of mundane things like what brake pads to get.
http://www.g-locbrakes.com/products/brake-compounds/
gloc uses transfer layer pads, so they want you to have a clean (turned)/new rotor to start with
could try out their GS-1 compound, that’s the most mild pad they offer
I run hawk HP+ and will be switching to GLOC R8 next year. The hp+ makes some noise and has some heavy dust for what it is
we run the R6 on the evo x and it’s awesome for autox/light HPDE use. Makes lots of noise for daily driving and a decent amount of dust. Have been nothing short of impressed with those pads though
Gf currently runs hawk HPS on the turbo Miata and I’m not a fan of them at all, she will most likely make the jump to R6/R8
FWIW, GLOC and Carbotech are basically the same thing, iirc they were started by the same dude or he left one to start the other.
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