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    gilber33
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    Some questions about my sunroof: 

    The car came with the handle removed and I never really looked into it. So I’m trying to figure out where I’m at with it. 
     

    Here’s what I have:

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    I tried putting what pieces I have back together into the crank assembly but all of the gears where very loose. Is there supposed to be a gear on both sides of the crank assembly? And looking at this picture, it looks like there’s a gear I’m missing. Like there’s a smaller gear inside the hollow gear that I have. 
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    Not knowing much about these: do I just get the crank and install that or do I buy the whole thing with the cables and everything as one large assembly. 
     

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    • straight6pwrS
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      straight6pwr
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      I can take pictures of mine tomorrow

      Dan
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        gilber33
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        #797

        Looks like there is only one gear. Found a better pic of the assembly: 

        So I just wonder now if I assume the remaining assembly is okay and just replace this or the whole thing. 

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          gilber33
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          To remove this assembly, apparently called a cassette, you have to remove the front headliner panel, and in order to remove the front headliner panel, you have to open the sunroof. So that’s fun. Apparently there’s an emergency crank for sunroofs, but I can’t find any info on it or how to do it.

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          • KaiserRollsK
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            KaiserRolls
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            gilber33 said:

            To remove this assembly, apparently called a cassette, you have to remove the front headliner panel, and in order to remove the front headliner panel, you have to open the sunroof. So that’s fun. Apparently there’s an emergency crank for sunroofs, but I can’t find any info on it or how to do it. 

            https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/forum/e30-technical-forums/general-technical/289774-can-i-open-an-electric-sunroof-manually

            on second thought you have a manual sunroof so this might be different. Sorry

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            • KaiserRollsK
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              KaiserRolls
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              Here’s a video on removing the cassette

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                gilber33
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                That is for a power sunroof. So the emergency key isn’t for manual sunroofs. I found that what I’m missing is this little gear here:

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                As you turn the handle, the little tooth on there catches the tooth on the inside of the gear that drives the gear to open and close the sunroof. So I need to source one of those. I am assuming that the handle broke - as appears to be very common - and the PO removed the handle and this stuff fell apart. I’m crossing my fingers the whole mechanism still works once I get the crank back together.

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                • straight6pwrS
                  straight6pwrS
                  straight6pwr
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                  oh, berty30.  he said he's going to get 'race status' door panels 🙄

                  Dan
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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    gilber33 said:

                    That is for a power sunroof. So the emergency key isn’t for manual sunroofs. I found that what I’m missing is this little gear  

                    Tried to edit, you were too fast

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      straight6pwr said:

                      oh, berty30.  he said he's going to get 'race status' door panels 🙄

                      I haven’t watched his content, just came up in search. Guessing by your comment I don’t need to watch lol

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                      • straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwr
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                        KaiserRolls said:

                        I haven’t watched his content, just came up in search. Guessing by your comment I don’t need to watch lol

                        nah, just another youtuber learning as he goes. some things to learn, with sprinklings of dumb. 

                        also heard in that video: "if this in the video then i did it, if its not in the video, then I didnt even do it, so you wont even see this" 

                        brilliant.

                        Dan
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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
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                          gilber33 said:

                          Not knowing much about these: do I just get the crank and install that or do I buy the whole thing with the cables and everything as one large assembly. 
                           

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                          Ebay prices are ridiculous, do people actually pay that much for those?? I have an entire manual sunroof mechanism that worked perfectly when pulled that I have absolutely zero use for since neither of my cars have a sunroof. I'll PM you.

                          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                            gilber33
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                            Sanding is 99% done! I did some touch up with 320, then 400 everything, and then a quick once-over with 600. After cleaning everything up I found a couple spots that need a little attention, but all in all it's done. I cleaned up the garage, blew it out, took down all the plastic and started taking off some of the masking. Next up is to put up new plastic and masking. I plan to paint everything not on the car first and then paint the car a different night to keep paint dust from collecting on parts to a minimum. 

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                            And @m42b32 to the rescue! I'll be able to at least use this to see if my sunroof still works, and if it doesn't, I can swap in this working mechanism. Saved me a ton of money so it is very greatly appreciated. 

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                              SteelBlue
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                              straight6pwr said:

                              nah, just another youtuber learning as he goes. some things to learn, with sprinklings of dumb. 

                              also heard in that video: "if this in the video then i did it, if its not in the video, then I didnt even do it, so you wont even see this" 

                              brilliant. 

                              He’s like the only one that does E30 content, unless I haven’t come across them. All the other videos are from like 8 years ago recorded on a microwave.

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                                Rekpoint
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                                Dont forget to wet your floor before painting! Itll grab dust and overspray!

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                                  gilber33
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                                  Rekpoint said:

                                  Dont forget to wet your floor before painting! Itll grab dust and overspray!

                                  Got a garden sprayer that I’ll be using for just that!

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                                    gilber33
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                                    Using the spare sunroof gears my sunroof tilts open but the gears are very sloppy when I try to slide it open. I am hoping the cassette is bad and I can replace that and be fine. 

                                    The hard part is the front headliner panel is attached on top under the sunroof and to access those screws, I need to slide the sunroof open. I got a spare panel, so I may need to cut off the wrap that’s on it to access the cassette and hopefully fix it, and then put in the spare panel. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                                      gilber33
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                                      Fuck yeah. 

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                                      It needs to be cleaned out and lubed up, but this is a big win for me.

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                                        gilber33
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                                        Still need to apply clear coat. It took five coats to get the hang of it. Had terrible issues with striping. Once I turned down the material adjustment a little bit and did much tighter passes it came out awesome. Doing large, flat areas is really hard. This is definitely not as easy as they make it look on YouTube. 

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                                          gilber33
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                                          Clear coated. Very happy with how these turned out for being my first time. 

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