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  • m42b32M
    m42b32M
    m42b32
    wrote on last edited by
    #460

    I ran into the exact same information about the fx racing clutches. Their instructions that come with the clutch are wrong. I installed mine "backwards" and have had zero issues.

    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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    • B
      B
      B C
      wrote on last edited by
      #461

      I love that oil cooler mount 👍🏼

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
        wrote on last edited by
        #462

        At least you caught it when you did. Somewhere on my pc I have a diagram that someone made about the correct way to install the clutch for the fx kit. I guess it’s pretty common to install them backwards. 
         

        At least you’re not this guy who friction welded it together and couldn’t get his trans separated lol56758C62-CCAC-474B-85AF-FBE05A9A1FA5.jpeg

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
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          jc43089 said:

          Nice progress.  fyi no teflon tape should be used for -an fittings, only on tapered pipe threads.

          +1 

          there are much better alternatives to fix pesky an leaks 

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          • KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRolls
            wrote on last edited by
            #464

            Did you replace the detent stuff on the zf when you had it out? Or were they not bad yet

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            • AsparagusMikeA
              AsparagusMikeA
              AsparagusMike
              wrote on last edited by
              #465

              jc43089 said:

              Nice progress.  fyi no teflon tape should be used for -an fittings, only on tapered pipe threads.

              I miss wrote on the post. the threads on the 45 degree elbow going into the flange fitting was not a -10 an, just regular threads (not sure on size or pitch though, probably like m14 I think). The plan was to use some blue Teflon which I guess was oil resistant but happy I just welded instead.

              m42b32 said:

              I ran into the exact same information about the fx racing clutches. Their instructions that come with the clutch are wrong. I installed mine "backwards" and have had zero issues. 

              Glad to hear it. I'd email them about it but I already know how that would go.

              B C said:

              I love that oil cooler mount 👍🏼

              Thanks!

              KaiserRolls said:

              Did you replace the detent stuff on the zf when you had it out? Or where they not bad yet 

              Honestly, after I read this post I had to look up what the hell you were talking about. Never even knew this was something that was a common issue for these. Heading over to the shop in a bit here and I will have to check it. Thanks!

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              • AsparagusMikeA
                AsparagusMikeA
                AsparagusMike
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                #466

                Differential was fully dissembled for the case and cover to be sent in for sand blasting.

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                That Thursday I dropped the case and cover off at a local industrial painting shop. I stuffed the casing full of newspaper and duct taped the holes to help prevent to much sand from getting inside or hitting the bearing races for the pinion gear shaft.

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                The following day after work I picked them back up.

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                As for the smaller components I threw a wire wheel on a die grinder and went to town cleaning them up. 

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                After going through and de-greasing/blowing everything off I prepped all the metal with some por-15 metal prep to add an extra etch to the metal for better adhesion.

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                It's a pretty simple task, just simply brush it on all the areas where paint will be applied and let it sit for a half hour. Once a half hour has past rinse everything off with water and your set to go.

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                Did two medium coats of por-15 waiting about an hour in between coats. After the last coat I let it dry for a full 24 hours.

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                While the paint dried I started on the lsd rebuild. As a refresher this is getting the 3 clutch disc upgrade from thayer motorsports increasing the lock up to around 50%.

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                The rebuild is very straight forward and Thayer includes a link on their site with a step by step process. Biggest thing here is taking your time and double and triple checking yourself making sure everything is in the right order facing the correct way. After removing all the guts I did soak the lsd unit in de-greaser cleaning it thoroughly before beginning reassembly. Remembering to lubricate every component with diff oil as it is being installed is crucial. Left over parts after the rebuild was the two old clutchs and dog ears, 4 mm spacer that the third clutch takes the place of and the eight old carrier cap screws.

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                The following day I removed the masking off everything and cleaned everything once more through. I also threw a few light coats of satin clear to the diff cover to protect from corrosion.

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                First part of the rebuild is reinstalling the rear pinion gear. I did replace the clamping bushing and the dust cover. After inspecting the bearings I chose to reuse the original ones as they were still in good shape. Being that I hadn't changed anything with gear clearances I simply torqued the nut down to 137 ft lbs as specified from bmw and what I confirmed on a couple threads on other forums and called it good.

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                After installing the freshly rebuilt lsd with the ring side retainers and axle shafts I took a little red paint and brushed it on the ring gear and spun it a full turn to ensure that the gears were still properly meshing. I also checked for any crazy amounts of backlash which was also within spec.

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                Used some permatex "the right stuff" gasket maker to seal the diff cover to the diff.

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                After ensuring the preload of the pinion gear was within spec I popped in a new locking plate for the nut.

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                Added 1.75 qts of castrol 75w-140 diff fluid which includes the lsd additive needed for the clutch plates. Also popped in the speed sensor with a new o-ring and metal plate. She is ready to be installed in the car.

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                3.73 diff that was in the car on the right.

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                On to the next thing. In a previous post @KaiserRolls mentioned the detent pins in the zf trans. I had not looked into these and did a bit of research as well as checking that it didn't need the replacement done. One of the major signs of failure was the shifter not popping back to center after pulling it out of 5th gear. Luckily everything still felt good.

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                New guide tube came in and the damaged one from the clutch disc was replaced.

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                After that was all said and done and the clutch disc was flipped around the correct way the trans was re-installed.

                Also installed a fresh guibo

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                For the manual e36's the 325i guibos were thinner and a bit smaller while the e36 m3 guibos were slightly larger and thicker. If you chose to run the m3 guibo which I preferred the dssr has to be modified. They usually are bent in order to add clearance. Being that I would have had to make a whole new dssr I instead chose to grind away the area that came in contact with the guibo. I over did it on the grinding in order to insure I had no clearance issues. I always knew about the bent dssr's but never knew why until now.

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                After re-installing I found that I had plenty of clearance now.

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                Up next... brake cooling. About a year ago I drew these up on Solidworks in a class I was taking and had them cut out on the water jet. As for the tubing portions I had some left over 2.5 inch stainless exhaust tubing laying around that I cut into sections and had my buddy tig weld them up.

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                In order to get the adapters for the air ducts on the valance attached I picked up some jb weld plastic bonder. The stuff is designed to attach plastic to metal so I thought I'd give it a try. After letting it dry for about an hour it was solid and definitely not coming off. 

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                Towards the beginning of March I ordered some ducting tubing 2.5 inch on amazon. I ordered two 1 meter sticks which would be more then plenty for both sides.

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                Unfortunately, I did not take any pics of the backing plate installed but it fit up really well. I did have to cut out the original dust shield in order to fit these up. My bigger challenge with this hole setup was where to route the ducting. Originally I thought I'd just run it right through the hole that the factory duct ran through but I ran into issues with the wheel rubbing on it when turning in. I found that my only option was to route straight back and then along the bottom of the frame rail up to the front. 

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                I didn't really have any other method to hang it other then zip ties so I got some beefier ones to make sure it was tight in place but not to tight that it would collapse the tubing.

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                Plenty of clearance with the wheel turned in and enough flexibility with it all the way out.

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                After this was finished I had the car back on the ground and buttoned up the last little bits and pieces. The same day I took the car out for a short drive around the neighborhood and I found the car was running really rich and there was a ton of drone in the cabin. After taking a look through tuner studio I had found that I had left the flex fuel sensor settings enabled and it was messing with the tune. After disabling it the car was back to normal running at the right afr's and no more drone.

                I never did take any pics or mention anything about it but I did get a flex fuel sensor installed. I ordered a gm sensor which seemed to be the popular option among many tuners. I ran the sensor on the feed line right below the intake manifold where it goes from hard line to rubber hose. I ordered a gm pig tail as well and wired that in except for plugging it into the ms unit which I decided on waiting to do tell I get the car back into the tuner to get it tuned for 91 octane fuel so I have the option to run both e85 and 91.

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                The following Sunday morning I took the car for a drive down to the local gas station and ran it through the car wash. First impressions with the new setup were pretty great. The zf trans shifts so smooth compared to the g260 and with the power numbers I am making it handles it so well. The stage 3 clutch surprisingly does not feel that much heavier over the stage 2 and with the zf trans the pedal feels like it is much less grabby and has a more consistent feel. Right away I took the car for a 25 mile drive of very easy driving to break in the new lsd clutch packs properly.

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                Still on the list to get done is finding some replacement seats and ordering some fresh rubber for the upcoming season. Very excited for this summer and really hoping this pandemic pans out soon.

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                • YoungCRY
                  YoungCRY
                  YoungCR
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #467

                  Glad to see you tackled the diff yourself, gives me inspiration for the few I have needing the same treatment.

                  Chris Young
                  BMWCCA #458972
                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                  • AsparagusMikeA
                    AsparagusMikeA
                    AsparagusMike
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #468

                    Had some some fresh rubbers installed over this last weekend. Last set was starting to become a bit of a hazard to drive on.

                    IMG20200418102250.jpg

                    This was one of the better ones of the 4 on the old set.

                    I decided to go with the same exact ones I had, Toyo proxies r1r. The overall performance of them were better then expected and for all the abuse I put them through I was surprised they lasted as long as they did. Also, they were my best option being that I only have four tires to pick from on tire rack in a 225/45r16 (who by the way have the best selection in that size)

                    After having the new tires installed I had the car re-aligned.

                    It really is quite amazing what a fresh set of tires does to the handling of a car! 

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                    So on another note. My drivers seat had some adjust-ability and support issues so I pulled it out and started dissecting. It didn't take me long to find out my issue...

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                    The other side of the bracket was cracked in the same place. Took the seat over to my buddies that afternoon and had him throw a weld on both sides.

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                    Yes I understand how jank as hell this is but I have been hardcore shopping for a nice set of used seats that would fit me and what I use the car for best and have so far been unlucky. For now this will work and I hope to find something to replace it within the next month or so.

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #469

                      That tire is criminally low on tread! 
                      Though I certainly know why! 

                      What kind of seats are you looking for? E30 sport seats, or other?

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                      • SteelBlueS
                        SteelBlueS
                        SteelBlue
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                        #470

                        Good to know on the R1R's, they were the ones I was also looking at.

                        As you said, there is very little in terms of selection for this size tire.

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                        • B
                          B
                          Boris3
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                          #471

                          AsparagusMike said:

                          Had some some fresh rubbers installed over this last weekend. Last set was starting to become a bit of a hazard to drive on.

                          IMG20200418102250.jpg

                          This was one of the better ones of the 4 on the old set.

                          Wow talk about getting your money's worth out of tires. Well done!!!

                          1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                          • AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMike
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #472

                            GunMetalGrey said:

                            That tire is criminally low on tread! 
                            Though I certainly know why! 

                            What kind of seats are you looking for? E30 sport seats, or other? 

                            I currently have the e30 sport seats. It seems there is always something breaking on the brackets with them, their support during auto-x have been iffy at best and they don't really sit as low as I'd like. I was originally looking for something with a fixed back but now that I have figured that this car will most likely see more street driving then track or auto-x I have been on the hunt for something that has good support for the occasional auto-x track days but also the recline-ability and comfort for longer drives and cruises. Through my shopping around and research I have taken quite a liking to recaro srd seats but its been a struggle to find a pair reasonably priced and in the area that don't get sold within a couple days. I am of course open to any suggestions or recommendations if you have any.

                            SteelBlue said:

                            Good to know on the R1R's, they were the ones I was also looking at.

                            As you said, there is very little in terms of selection for this size tire. 

                            The only other good option was the dunlop direzza ZIII which I haven't tried yet but they were gonna be around $50 more for a set of 4 and the toyo's had all the same ratings and was considered the better performing tire in rainy conditions which I can vouch for from the hand full of times during wet auto-x's when I didn't think I'd have any grip and they proved me wrong.

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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
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                              #473

                              AsparagusMike said:

                               I have taken quite a liking to recaro srd seats but its been a struggle to find a pair reasonably priced and in the area that don't get sold within a couple days.

                              The only other good option was the dunlop direzza ZIII which I haven't tried yet but they were gonna be around $50 more for a set of 4 and the toyo's had all the same ratings and was considered the better performing tire in rainy conditions which I can vouch for from the hand full of times during wet auto-x's when I didn't think I'd have any grip and they proved me wrong.

                              Recaro SRD's are likely one of my favorite seats, so I can certainly stand behind you looking for those. 
                              I'll do some browsing but I do believe there is a similar style that is available currently from a reputable manufacturer.j

                              I ran the Direzza ZII for a bit, I have not run the Toyo so I can't provide a direct comparison, but I can certainly agree that the ZII's get a bit spicy in the rain! I enjoyed it for all other reasons, but as noted never ran the Toyo's. I do believe one of the next "Auto X killer" tires is being released in a 225/45/16 @KaiserRolls may know more about that. I can't remember what tire it was, but Brooke had posted about them and  I recall that size being available.

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #474

                                GunMetalGrey said:

                                Recaro SRD's are likely one of my favorite seats, so I can certainly stand behind you looking for those. 
                                I'll do some browsing but I do believe there is a similar style that is available currently from a reputable manufacturer.j

                                I ran the Direzza ZII for a bit, I have not run the Toyo so I can't provide a direct comparison, but I can certainly agree that the ZII's get a bit spicy in the rain! I enjoyed it for all other reasons, but as noted never ran the Toyo's. I do believe one of the next "Auto X killer" tires is being released in a 225/45/16 @KaiserRolls may know more about that. I can't remember what tire it was, but Brooke had posted about them and  I recall that size being available. 

                                Falken RT660 

                                245/50/16 though IIRC 

                                EDIT. meant to say 225. @m42b32 has quoted me into humiliation though

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                                • m42b32M
                                  m42b32M
                                  m42b32
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #475

                                  KaiserRolls said:

                                  Falken RT660 

                                  245/50/16 though IIRC 

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                                  Found the sizes on tirerack, a few options for us e30 folks!

                                  1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    Shit. Meant to type 225. I blame the NyQuil

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
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                                      m42b32 said:

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                                      Found the sizes on tirerack, a few options for us e30 folks!

                                      Yes the 225/45-15 is calling my name. Supposedly more sizes are going to be released as well

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                                      • m42b32M
                                        m42b32M
                                        m42b32
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #478

                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Yes the 225/45-15 is calling my name. Supposedly more sizes are going to be released as well

                                        That option is making me consider 15's again. Price is decent too.

                                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                        • SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlue
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                                          #479

                                          Have to run that t h i c c side wall if you're running 15s, at least in my opinion.

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