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the one and only e30 s52 engine swap

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  • AsparagusMikeA
    AsparagusMikeA
    AsparagusMike
    wrote on last edited by
    #123

    Trialing arm bearings out as well as everything else that was still on them. Taking everything in to get blasted tomorrow and then reinforcement time. 😄

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    Rear firewall soundproofing rubberish thingy removed as well as the heat shield underneath it revealing some glorious surprises.

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    Got an angle grinder with a wire wheel sitting on the bench, yets see where that gets me tomorrow.

    On another note...

    I completely forgot to mention it but I did end up getting the e36 m3 steering rack.

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    Yes the rack is in pretty rough shape right now but after a reseal kit and a little TLC I think it'll turnout alright.

    Didn't mention this yet but I am planning on repainting the engine bay. Still deciding on what color to go with though.

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
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      #124

      I’m sure you will, but check the front subframe closely for cracks. I found a couple in my old one before I replaced it

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      • AsparagusMikeA
        AsparagusMikeA
        AsparagusMike
        wrote on last edited by
        #125

        GunMetalGrey said:

        So this bolt runs down and fastens to the timing cover (aluminum). These are quite common to strip and are certainly a pain to deal with. 
        I don't think you will get the threads to take with a new bolt, though it's an easy thing to try. 
        I've had this happen a couple times (don't go by the book spec, it's too much) and I started putting inserts in them before assembly to cover my ass. 

        Pulling the timing cover off is my advice if you want to be proper. 
        Loosen up the head, pull the jesus bolt, loosen the pan, and you can slide the cover out and use inserts. 

        Welp, the tap and die failed. I guess you were right Ben.

        Although the tap and bolt welded together was a really good idea that did work by cleaning up the threads, It was at a point where they were no longer really savable.

        So Saturday I pulled the timing cover on the motor.

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        This morning I ordered new timing cover gaskets, steering rack reseal kit, rear wheel bearings, last of the gaskets I need for the motor as well as a few other things to keep me busy.

        Gonna head in to auto zone this morning and find myself a helicoil kit and then I'll be on my way.

        On another note...

        I haves a question.

        What I want is to get rid of that charcoal canister and with it the fuel line that runs to it from the gas tank. The canister itself is pretty much shot and the fuel line running to it is rusty as can be. I honestly don't want to pay to order another line and canister when the only purpose for it is to lower emissions.

        Can I just delete the system back to the tank, run a tube with the purge valve attached to it off of that piece, tuck it away and let it vent to atmosphere? Not sure how it would but will that cause a vacuum build up in the tank?

        I also know of the other method people chose to do which is simply deleting the canister leaving the purge valve between the two lines running to the the throttle body. Other people also commented that this will cause a vacuum build up in the tank.

        What have you guys done for this part of the car?

        Thx!

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        • AsparagusMikeA
          AsparagusMikeA
          AsparagusMike
          wrote on last edited by
          #126

          Ya, so things have been a happenin...

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          By the way, thx for the tip on that bolt extractor kit for getting the last bolt out on the gas tank. Worked like a charm.

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          As well as the rest of the aluminum subframe sleeve... To get it out I used a tig torch set on AC (usually used for welding aluminum) and it pretty much just heated up really fast and blasted it out all at the same time.

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          After getting that done, I was able to pull all the rest of the brake and fuel lines which I should say were very crusty and in dyer need of replacement.

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          In fact once I started to pop the fuel lines out of the brackets they immediately started to leak in 3 different spots. Gonna be replacing all the lines with copper nickel line 5/16 for the fuel and 3/16 for the brake.  Ordered a bubble flaring kit from Matco the other day. Hoping to see it here Monday or Tuesday.

          For the interior, as you've seen above I got the dash and carpet pulled. Carpet is a nasty mess ,  Gonna try cleaning it today back at home and see how she looks. Not really sure about dying the carpet as I am a little leery about how it may hold up over time. Also came upon a website while researching carpets for bmw's called stockinteriors.com. They will make a molded carpet with the foam for an e30 for about 170 bucks, only thing I would have to do is cut in the necessary holes for it to fit, something I may have to consider if the original carpet doesn't work out.

          As for the dash, Got it completely dissembled last, dremeled out all of the cracks with a grinding stone. Will begin body filling the cracks tonight and sand it down. Order dash flocking kit, check.

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          Also started to clean all the foam for sealing the duck work. Anyone know where I can get a good replacement for that kind of stuff?

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          And onto the rust repair...

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          So far this is all that I was able to get done for repair so far. Tough thing I learned my lesson from is the fact I decided to use 12 gauge steel instead of something a bit liter like 16 or 18. It still ended up turning out alright and welded up nicely with just a few issues where the amperage was to high and burned holes in the original body metal because of how much thinner it was. Will clean it up a bit more with a paddle wheel and paint on the por-15.

          There are about three more spots that need to be cut and welded up with new metal on the passenger side floor panel. After that, on to the driver side which I have began cutting out where the rust has ate through.

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          After learning my lesson, gonna be using something a bit liter on this side like 18 gauge. Gonna weld much better to the original metal and bend nicer.

          A couple other things done... removed the entire airbag system and got the hole drilled, tapped, and helicoiled on the timing cover.

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          Still waiting on new gaskets to reinstall it as well as hand full of other parts including all new 95a poly bushings, motor mounts, and trans mounts from revshift! Still waiting on my frames to get blasted which were suppose to be done this last Friday but it seems everyone I have been getting work done by recently have been telling me they would get it done by this time and end up not having it done when I call them on that date, some people's kids I tell ya.

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          • KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRolls
            wrote on last edited by
            #127

            Awesome progress!
            As far as the purge valve stuff goes, I let that line vent to atmosphere & have the purge valve still connected to the harness, just let that hang out wherever

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            • EarlE
              EarlE
              Earl
              wrote on last edited by
              #128

              You can buy those HVAC gaskets new from the dealer. Check realoem.com for the part number

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              • D
                D
                Daggerty
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                #129

                @straight6pwr bought a carpet from stockinteriors.com or a similar site. 

                He could tell you what the pros cons are of it.

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                • stealthbimmerS
                  stealthbimmerS
                  stealthbimmer
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                  #130

                  Told ya, those extractors are a life saver. Lookin good

                  1997 328ic

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                  • JdesignJ
                    JdesignJ
                    Jdesign
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                    #131

                    So many pictars. Keep it up man this thread is great.

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #132

                      You're really digging into this thing! 

                      You are going to love the feel of the brake pedal after swapping all of the lines. While you are at it make sure to replace the soft brake lines, and may as well replace all of the hardlines (trailing arm lines etc.)

                      Keep up the good work! 

                      I'll dig for the vanos tools sometime this week, should be able to get out to the shop.

                      ...

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                      • straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwrS
                        straight6pwr
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #133

                        Daggerty said:

                        @straight6pwr bought a carpet from stockinteriors.com or a similar site. 

                        He could tell you what the pros cons are of it.

                        pros:

                        • color choices
                        • lightweight
                        • synthetic material so better stain resistance
                        • cheap, relative to new OEM carpet

                        cons:

                        • fit is not great
                        • takes a bit of effort to install
                        • more cabin noise than stock

                        basically, if your carpet could be R&R'd back to good condition, I wouldnt bother with an aftermarket replacement. mine was ripped and smelled awful from water intrusion.

                        Dan
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                        • AsparagusMikeA
                          AsparagusMikeA
                          AsparagusMike
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #134

                          straight6pwr said:

                          pros:

                          • color choices
                          • lightweight
                          • synthetic material so better stain resistance
                          • cheap, relative to new OEM carpet

                          cons:

                          • fit is not great
                          • takes a bit of effort to install
                          • more cabin noise than stock

                          basically, if your carpet could be R&R'd back to good condition, I wouldnt bother with an aftermarket replacement. mine was ripped and smelled awful from water intrusion.

                          Thx for the info! Hopefully the original cleans up well.

                          Earl said:

                          You can buy those HVAC gaskets new from the dealer. Check realoem.com for the part number

                          Got the part number. Called up the dealer, 35 dollars for a piece of foam. Ya, no.

                          KaiserRolls said:

                          Awesome progress!
                          As far as the purge valve stuff goes, I let that line vent to atmosphere & have the purge valve still connected to the harness, just let that hang out wherever

                          That's exactly what I want to do. Thanks for confirming it.

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                          • EarlE
                            EarlE
                            Earl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #135

                            I mean $34 sounds more than fair for what it is lol. I replaced the one in my compact new and it was painless. I think being such a funky shape, it'd take a while to try and get a piece of strip to apply nicely.

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                            • B
                              B
                              B C
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #136

                              For the charcoal canister, I will see if I can cut the line back closer to the fuel tank then install an inline fuel filter just to allow it to breathe but not allow dirt in. I will post more once I get there

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                              • jc43089J
                                jc43089J
                                jc43089
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                                #137

                                Snap said:

                                For the charcoal canister, I will see if I can cut the line back closer to the fuel tank then install an inline fuel filter just to allow it to breathe but not allow dirt in. I will post more once I get there

                                That will stink, literally, anytime the car is parked and the temperature increases you will smell gas.  Maybe I missed something?  Why are we not connecting charcoal canisters?  There are aftermarket universal ones for cheap if the original is broken.

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                                • B
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                                  B C
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                                  jc43089 said:

                                  That will stink, literally, anytime the car is parked and the temperature increases you will smell gas.  Maybe I missed something?  Why are we not connecting charcoal canisters?  There are aftermarket universal ones for cheap if the original is broken. 

                                  I wanted to keep it but I already had to relocate it 2 "above the stock E30 location in order to clear the E36 engine mount arms. Now the top of it hits the master cylinder. I will proceed with removing it as planned but if I can find a suitable smaller replacement then I will consider it.

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
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                                    FWIW I don’t smell gas

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #140

                                      I had my tank vent through a small filter and had a small line going towards the ground right by the fuel tank. I had removed all of the stock hardline and canister stuff. 
                                      Never smelled gas, never had the car start on fire.

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                                      • Bassboy3313B
                                        Bassboy3313B
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                                        I've never smelled gas from my canister removal. Only when the fuel rail line leaked. ;)

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                                        • AsparagusMikeA
                                          AsparagusMikeA
                                          AsparagusMike
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                                          I'll start off right away by saying that dash repair, is not as easy as it seems. I spent right around 8 hours total body filling and sanding the shit out of this thing. Many times I came upon more small cracks I hadn't noticed before and had to go back and open them up and fix em.  All in all it ended up turning out really great and I couldn't be more pleased.

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                                          The dash flocking was pretty straight forward as there is a pretty well written instructions that comes with the kit. I would say the one and only struggle about the hole process was the amount of time I had to get it done. You get 15 minutes total to get the black undercoat and the fibers on. Luckily I had a friend help me with the painting and so it took us about 10 minutes to get the painting done and the last few minutes to frantically get the fibers blown on before the undercoat dried. I went overboard with the fibers as the kit advises u to in order to cover all the areas. The cure takes about 15 - 17 hours before u can shake the excess fibers off and another 72 hours to a week before u can install it back in the car.

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                                          We'll see how she looks tomorrow once I shake it off.

                                          On another note, got the driver side rust hole fixed up, 16 gauge worked so much better and welded up with little issue.

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                                          Subframes and trailing arms back from blasting!

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                                          Reinforcement time...

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                                          Front subframe all welded up before calling it quits tonight. All credit goes to my buddy Forrest and his master skills with a tig welder...

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                                          Gonna help finish up the reinforcement welding tomorrow as well as two other small rust holes on the passenger side that need to be cut out and welded up. Also praying that my parts show up from fcp so that I can get the timing cover back on the motor. Was suppose to get a few parts I was having powder coated back about week ago but it seems that their oven broke down and was unable to get it back up and running tell about a day ago, so once again, I wait. :(

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