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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
    wrote on last edited by
    #90

    Not much to update. 

    I have never been able to get this thing to hold its temperature so far. The radiator isn't getting hot, the top row gets fairly warm but nothing else happens. 
    I've tried bleeding air out many times, have replaced the thermostat, and made sure the radiator was flowing. I'm starting to wonder if ice killed the water pump blades. I will probably take the pump out soon and check.

    Any other thoughts? It will sit at about 3/4 temp with the cabin fan on high, but will start going higher if I go on the highway.

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    • GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGreyG
      GunMetalGrey
      wrote on last edited by
      #91

      Did some digging last night. 
      I was impressed by the amount of time that isn't required to pull a head on one of these things. This is clearly due to not needing to pull the cam and various timing components. It took 45 minutes from start to finish to get the head off with the help of a friend, neither of us having done it before. 

      2017-01-1208-07-23

      I was very surprised to see how clean the pistons were, and that though the cylinder walls are pretty smooth you can still see some crosshatching. This thing has around 250k miles, so that's always amusing. It also looks like someone had a little valve to piston contact at some point in its life. 
      I don't see any super obvious signs of HG failure, but all of the symptoms are there. 
      Misfiring (cold and hot lol)
      Long crank times
      Touch of white smoke
      Overheating

      Pictures of stuff. White exhaust valves and all. (probably due to my lack of exhaust most of its life)

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      The really dark part of the HG between the pistons is odd, and something that I have not seen before. 

      I'm torn between swapping head gaskets or replacing the motor with on of Mr. Young's spares.

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      • EarlE
        EarlE
        Earl
        wrote on last edited by
        #92

        If you don't see any cracks and it is all pretty level I would say just throw a head gasket in and see if it fixes your issues. Not much else internally besides your water pump scenario would make sense. Plus you save the time of swapping the motor again and who knows how the inside of the other motor looks. This way you have peace of mind on that

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        • JdesignJ
          JdesignJ
          Jdesign
          wrote on last edited by
          #93

          GunMetalGrey said:

          The really dark part of the HG between the pistons is odd, and something that I have not seen before. 

          I'm torn between swapping head gaskets or replacing the motor with on of Mr. Young's spares. 

          It also looks like someone had a little valve to piston contact at some point in its life. 

          My guess would be that dark portion could be carbon deposits from a bad gasket? In the past I have seen cylinders connect before and cause all kinds of weird issues, and normally there is a path of discoloration between the two.

          If I was you, I would check the head and make sure its square, and just toss a new gasket on it VS swapping the motor.

          Also where do you see the valve and piston contact, would it be possible you have a bent valve? I would check into that as well. 

          PS- We are all still waiting to see rear flares.😊

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          • jc43089J
            jc43089J
            jc43089
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            #94

            Look very carefully for cracks in the head between the exhaust valve seats and the cooling passages.

            2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
            3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
            '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
              wrote on last edited by
              #95

              I pulled the water pump and it was A-Okay. 

              I will closely inspect the exhaust to coolant passage area on the head to ensure there are no cracks. 

              I think I will end up ordering stuff to do the HG as it will cost a bit less than replacing the motor, and be less work. If that doesn't fix it then I shall take more drastic routes. 

              I will be taking the head in to have it decked / checked as I am assuming it is no longer straight.

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              • GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGreyG
                GunMetalGrey
                wrote on last edited by
                #96

                Jdesign said:

                PS- We are all still waiting to see rear flares.😊

                I should start on that soon. 
                But then I come up with other really bad ideas and want to try those first 😉

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                • JdesignJ
                  JdesignJ
                  Jdesign
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #97

                  I love bad ideas, I am full of them. 😎

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #98

                    Dropped the head off at the machine shop last night. Guy pulled the plugs (I forgot to) and looked at them and said, oh yeah, this head gasket has been bad for quite awhile. I never mentioned the head gasket being bad. 
                    This amuses me.

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                    • EarlE
                      EarlE
                      Earl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #99

                      😆

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                      • JdesignJ
                        JdesignJ
                        Jdesign
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #100

                        Well there ya go. LOL

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                        • GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGrey
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #101

                          Head gasket and head bolts have been received. 
                          Waiting on the head to come back from the machine shop and then it's reassembly time. 

                          I'm still hoping to ice race this weekend if the event isn't cancelled.

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                          • B
                            B
                            B C
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                            #102

                            How much for the inspection and machine work?

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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
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                              #103

                              $60

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                              • EarlE
                                EarlE
                                Earl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #104

                                That sounds like a great deal=) Wasn't the place you used for your exhaust manifold was it?😆

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                                • GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGrey
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #105

                                  Earl said:

                                  That sounds like a great deal=) Wasn't the place you used for your exhaust manifold was it?😆

                                  Hahaha, nope! I won't set foot in that place again. 
                                  It's a local guy that has always done my motor work, and does it at a good cost and his work is always great.

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                                  • EarlE
                                    EarlE
                                    Earl
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                                    #106

                                    haha just foolin=) Did they end up getting you that new manifold?

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #107

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                                      Shiny head! 
                                      I got it all assembled and it still overheated, so either I'm bad at bleeding m20 cooling systems or something is wonky. 
                                      I took the thermostat out and it still started creeping past 1/2 at idle, so I replaced the clutch fan. Shall test all of that tonight. 

                                      This car resulted in this picture, it makes dealing with constant issues easier.

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
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                                        #108

                                        PBR? Did Andy buy something from you?

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #109

                                          KaiserRolls said:

                                          PBR? Did Andy buy something from you?

                                          lol, nope! That's Mikes beer of choice.

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