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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
    wrote on last edited by
    #91

    Did some digging last night. 
    I was impressed by the amount of time that isn't required to pull a head on one of these things. This is clearly due to not needing to pull the cam and various timing components. It took 45 minutes from start to finish to get the head off with the help of a friend, neither of us having done it before. 

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    I was very surprised to see how clean the pistons were, and that though the cylinder walls are pretty smooth you can still see some crosshatching. This thing has around 250k miles, so that's always amusing. It also looks like someone had a little valve to piston contact at some point in its life. 
    I don't see any super obvious signs of HG failure, but all of the symptoms are there. 
    Misfiring (cold and hot lol)
    Long crank times
    Touch of white smoke
    Overheating

    Pictures of stuff. White exhaust valves and all. (probably due to my lack of exhaust most of its life)

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    The really dark part of the HG between the pistons is odd, and something that I have not seen before. 

    I'm torn between swapping head gaskets or replacing the motor with on of Mr. Young's spares.

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    • EarlE
      EarlE
      Earl
      wrote on last edited by
      #92

      If you don't see any cracks and it is all pretty level I would say just throw a head gasket in and see if it fixes your issues. Not much else internally besides your water pump scenario would make sense. Plus you save the time of swapping the motor again and who knows how the inside of the other motor looks. This way you have peace of mind on that

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      • JdesignJ
        JdesignJ
        Jdesign
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        #93

        GunMetalGrey said:

        The really dark part of the HG between the pistons is odd, and something that I have not seen before. 

        I'm torn between swapping head gaskets or replacing the motor with on of Mr. Young's spares. 

        It also looks like someone had a little valve to piston contact at some point in its life. 

        My guess would be that dark portion could be carbon deposits from a bad gasket? In the past I have seen cylinders connect before and cause all kinds of weird issues, and normally there is a path of discoloration between the two.

        If I was you, I would check the head and make sure its square, and just toss a new gasket on it VS swapping the motor.

        Also where do you see the valve and piston contact, would it be possible you have a bent valve? I would check into that as well. 

        PS- We are all still waiting to see rear flares.😊

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          #94

          Look very carefully for cracks in the head between the exhaust valve seats and the cooling passages.

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          • GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGrey
            wrote on last edited by
            #95

            I pulled the water pump and it was A-Okay. 

            I will closely inspect the exhaust to coolant passage area on the head to ensure there are no cracks. 

            I think I will end up ordering stuff to do the HG as it will cost a bit less than replacing the motor, and be less work. If that doesn't fix it then I shall take more drastic routes. 

            I will be taking the head in to have it decked / checked as I am assuming it is no longer straight.

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
              wrote on last edited by
              #96

              Jdesign said:

              PS- We are all still waiting to see rear flares.😊

              I should start on that soon. 
              But then I come up with other really bad ideas and want to try those first 😉

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              • JdesignJ
                JdesignJ
                Jdesign
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                #97

                I love bad ideas, I am full of them. 😎

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
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                  #98

                  Dropped the head off at the machine shop last night. Guy pulled the plugs (I forgot to) and looked at them and said, oh yeah, this head gasket has been bad for quite awhile. I never mentioned the head gasket being bad. 
                  This amuses me.

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                  • EarlE
                    EarlE
                    Earl
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                    #99

                    😆

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                    • JdesignJ
                      JdesignJ
                      Jdesign
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #100

                      Well there ya go. LOL

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #101

                        Head gasket and head bolts have been received. 
                        Waiting on the head to come back from the machine shop and then it's reassembly time. 

                        I'm still hoping to ice race this weekend if the event isn't cancelled.

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                        • B
                          B
                          B C
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                          #102

                          How much for the inspection and machine work?

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #103

                            $60

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                            • EarlE
                              EarlE
                              Earl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #104

                              That sounds like a great deal=) Wasn't the place you used for your exhaust manifold was it?😆

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #105

                                Earl said:

                                That sounds like a great deal=) Wasn't the place you used for your exhaust manifold was it?😆

                                Hahaha, nope! I won't set foot in that place again. 
                                It's a local guy that has always done my motor work, and does it at a good cost and his work is always great.

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                                • EarlE
                                  EarlE
                                  Earl
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                                  #106

                                  haha just foolin=) Did they end up getting you that new manifold?

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #107

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                                    Shiny head! 
                                    I got it all assembled and it still overheated, so either I'm bad at bleeding m20 cooling systems or something is wonky. 
                                    I took the thermostat out and it still started creeping past 1/2 at idle, so I replaced the clutch fan. Shall test all of that tonight. 

                                    This car resulted in this picture, it makes dealing with constant issues easier.

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
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                                      #108

                                      PBR? Did Andy buy something from you?

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
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                                        #109

                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        PBR? Did Andy buy something from you?

                                        lol, nope! That's Mikes beer of choice.

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                                        • straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwr
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                                          #110

                                          pbr is pretty good for cheap light beer. better than lite or bud or other terrible domestic light beers.

                                          on topic - i'm sure you know how to bleed one of these cars, but what process are you going through exactly?

                                          i just bled my e30 before winter and it took probably 4 cycles of: start car - warms up - massage radiator hoses -  starts to creep past 1/2 - shut it off - let it cool - open the cap - more coolant - repeat.

                                          Dan
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