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    Rowleym
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    In the mean time, before I buy a large piece of land, where i will build my house(I'm sorry, no one builds a house like I want my house to be like, and my father is going to build it with me. Always been a dream of mine, and i will do it), but that won't be for a while, and I want to get a good start on my business. But this requires me to either add on to my current shop, which I'm afraid I won't get any return on my investment when I go to sell the place(who buys a 750sqft house with a huge shop???).

    would you simply find a shop to rent, find a shop to buy, or expand?

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    • visianV
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      Interesting Rent vs. Buy Calculator from the New York Times recently.

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

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        Earl said:

        I really need to start thinking about this. I'm already not being so smart with my money since my car has taken roughly 20K...

        $20k and no turbo....sad day

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          Rowleym
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          visian said:

          Interesting Rent vs. Buy Calculator from the New York Times recently.

          http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

          Just filled this out lol.

          Supposedly I made the right move. Renting a place for around 250$ a month would be the better move, but no way in hell could I rent a place for that.

          I love my tiny house.

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            visian said:

            Interesting Rent vs. Buy Calculator from the New York Times recently.

            http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

            visian, I'm not saying this applies to you, but anyone who takes this calculator seriously is an idiot. 

            This is the housing equivalent of taking life/relationship advice from EliteDaily.com  

            There are so many holes in this. The numbers are incomplete, the numbers that are present are sourced from national data that is averaged, does not factor in cost of living differences or the fact that home price growth varies wildly right now and the majority of areas are not seeing growth. Some 70% of new construction in this country is currently rental buildings, NOT single family homes. People talk about the residential new construction market coming back and what's never represented is what % of the new construction is rental buildings vs. single family homes. I had an article last year that referenced this with all the data that I wish I had bookmarked right now.

            This calculator also does not factor a person's age/demographics i.e. how much money they earn vs. how young they are and as such how much they stand to increase over 10 years time and what that means for what they could or could not buy as investment drivers, and because it doesn't include ANY data on cost of living and how wildly that differs based on city, it's impossible to account for the fact that a younger person will struggle a LOT more with maintaining a house and living there compared to renting because of ever-increasing utility costs that, commonly in rentals heat/water are covered by the landlords, and how much even small repairs on a house cut into a young person's limited cash flow/income. 

            This is so misleading it makes my head spin. My god. There is no consideration for qualitative analysis here either - not that there can be because it's intangible and varies from person to person. But that's exactly why this cannot be taken seriously. If I had followed the output recommendation of this calculator without considering who I am and what my propensity is, I wouldn't even have half the net worth that I currently have at 32. And I'd have set myself back a decade in real terms as far as where my leverage and investing power would be. 

            Holy fuck. I'm not surprised though because after all it is the NY Times.

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              Damn....going to tell the wife about elitedaily.com  we've been going strong because of it.

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                Rowleym
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                sir, where do you get your financial wisdom from?

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                • KaiserRollsK
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                  KaiserRolls
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                  We now need an elite daily thread. REKIII, get us rolling

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                  • suspencefulS
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                    I will admit, that calculator seems biased towards buying a home. I think it can be a valuable tool, but it's generalized and there are so many other unique factors for every person.

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                      Buying a home will, in general, be a better option for most of the population.  The numbers don't work, when figured like ILC or I have described, but most people, or the average person, will not invest the difference when renting, therefore ending up with less than if you had bought.

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                        i_love_cars
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                        REKIII said:

                        Buying a home will, in general, be a better option for most of the population.  The numbers don't work, when figured like ILC or I have described, but most people, or the average person, will not invest the difference when renting, therefore ending up with less than if you had bought.  

                        this is so very true. You have to take what I say with a grain of salt because 99% of the population is not willing to sacrifice or do what I do. My friends used to think I was a millionaire because I was quote unquote "in real estate", meanwhile I'm sitting there on my hands and knees scraping up 4 layers of tile on a bathroom floor in a building that I was pretty sure was going to kill my health. 

                        But it doesn't change the fact that I'm being totally honest about everything if the goal for a person reading this is to actually do something more with their lives instead of go to work, come home and do the family thing and watch American Idol or whatever the fuck is on tv these days.

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                        • KaiserRollsK
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                          I don't have cable. So it's the people's court for me.

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