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1991 318is M62B44 Build

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  • KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRollsK
    KaiserRolls
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    #143

    Injector rails grounded? Getting fuel/spark?

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    • straight6pwrS
      straight6pwrS
      straight6pwr
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      #144

      garagistic has a little chart on m62 wiring: http://garagistic.com/index.php?page=e30-m60-wiring

      i can't find any wiring diagrams online to identify that white 12-pin connector.

      Dan
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      • CMartC
        CMartC
        CMart
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        #145

        Thanks guys.

        Not getting fuel/spark.

        I need to make sure my motor is ground, doing that today after work.

        Dan - I think you did just find it on that link - any idea what B/S mean? Wouldn't the socket and pin housing be the same?

        That would make sense too because the only thing I was using for that white 12-pin was the starter out. I wasn't putting any V in to power the DME etc.

        Edit - the table didn't show - it is the one at the bottom of the link you used.

        PIN ASSIGNMENTS (AKA X6011) Pin   Description B: Socket housing
        S: Pin housing
        1   Terminal 15 B: Unloader relay terminal 15     S: Ignition switch 2   Terminal 15 B: DME control unit     S: Fuse F14 3   Start signal terminal 50 B: Start relay     S: Electronic immobilizer control unit (EWS) 4   Diagnosis signal TXD B: Connector TXD     S: Connector TXD 5   Not used         6   Terminal 15 B: Connector terminal 15     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 7   Terminal 87 B: Connector, terminal 87     S: Fuse F31 8   Signal, terminal 50 B: DME control unit     S: Ignition switch 9   Signal, alternator D+ (terminal 61) B: Generator     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 10   Remote thermometer signal (negative) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 11   Remote thermometer signal (positive) B: Dual temperature switch     S: Integrated electronic control unit (IKE) 12   Ground activation, terminal 85 B: DME control unit     S: Fuel pump relay 1

        Excursion 7.3
        E30 LS1

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        • B
          B
          B C
          wrote on last edited by
          #146

          DME needs to see timing data from the crank sensor/trigger wheel to run the fuel pump and generate spark

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          • CMartC
            CMartC
            CMart
            wrote on last edited by
            #147

            Crank and cam are hooked up.

            Excursion 7.3
            E30 LS1

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
              wrote on last edited by
              #148

              CMart said:

              Crank and cam are hooked up.

              DME isn't bad?

              I had an issue where my swap would randomly shut off while driving but the DME was still getting power. It would start back up but would do it randomly. Put in a new main relay and different DME and now it's perfect. I also re-went over my grounds. Harness, engine, injector rail and my e fan

              Do you have a different DME you can try easily?

              Fuel pump primes when key is turned?

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              • CMartC
                CMartC
                CMart
                wrote on last edited by
                #149

                DME is brand new - tested after the tune.

                I have ground, but not sure about having it on the fuel rail. Are you sure the V8 rail needs ground as well?

                Excursion 7.3
                E30 LS1

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                • CMartC
                  CMartC
                  CMart
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #150

                  Don't mind the video - just turn up your speakers...

                  Excursion 7.3
                  E30 LS1

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                  • straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwrS
                    straight6pwr
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #151

                    so you got it?

                    my best guess for this was it was referring to which side of the connector and where it is headed. Basically male(pin)/female(socket) for that junction and everything 'socket' was on the side headed towards the body/other controllers and everything 'pin' was on the side headed to the DME. so your white connector is the 'pin' side, and the the 'socket' side is where its headed toward on the body.

                    B: Socket housing
                    S: Pin housing

                    i wasnt positive, though, because your connector is missing some pins that are listed in the chart, although cars can differ from year to year

                    Dan
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                    • CMartC
                      CMartC
                      CMart
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #152

                      Yeeep.

                      A little trial and error and boom.

                      Now all the little wires, straighten up some of the routings, bleed the brakes/clutch and give it some abuse on Sunday.

                      Excursion 7.3
                      E30 LS1

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                      • wasnt m3W
                        wasnt m3W
                        wasnt m3
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                        #153

                        Congrats! Definitely looking forward to seeing/hearing this thing in person!

                        m3sig-1.jpg

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #154

                          Yes! Was it the pin connector thing ?

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                          • straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwrS
                            straight6pwr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #155

                            sweet! also cant wait to see it

                            Dan
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                            • CMartC
                              CMartC
                              CMart
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                              #156

                              Yes:

                              The two green wires needed 12v. One to activate the fuel pump relay, red/white wire, (which I was using a go around for) and the other to turn the ECU on. 

                              Black is starter which is hooked up to the C101.

                              Ordered a huge Z3M 3 row mishi last night to keep it cool. Hoping to get it on the road Sunday and have the bugs worked out for the fall meet.

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                              Excursion 7.3
                              E30 LS1

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                              • ClassEC
                                ClassEC
                                ClassE
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                                #157

                                Awesome - glad you got this running!

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                                • CMartC
                                  CMartC
                                  CMart
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #158

                                  Me. Fn. Too.

                                  Excursion 7.3
                                  E30 LS1

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                                  • CMartC
                                    CMartC
                                    CMart
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #159

                                    She moved under her own power today. All of 2 feet, but happy with the progress.

                                    Video of it running in better light:

                                    Excursion 7.3
                                    E30 LS1

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #160

                                      I know those feels. I hope to see the car this weekend!

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                                      • CMartC
                                        CMartC
                                        CMart
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #161

                                        I really want to. I've got a lot of work to do before making a drive that far, but that is definitely the goal.

                                        Excursion 7.3
                                        E30 LS1

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                                        • Bassboy3313B
                                          Bassboy3313B
                                          Bassboy3313
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                                          #162

                                          Nice work man! One step closer is always a good feeling

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