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  • mkoeppM
    mkoeppM
    mkoepp
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    #1

    Well I got her home last Sunday will the help of TCD and frcefed. Thanks guys. 

    I have a few things to take care of before making any plans. I am getting a U-Haul later this week and getting my engine hoist and stand back home. Once I have all my crap here I have a few minor issues with the 533 to address and then it's swap time. 

    The swap will be much easier thanks to TCD. Many of the systems were left in the car (steering, HVAC and dash ect..). 

    Just glad to have it in the garage at this point. 

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    • DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFootD
      DrLeadFoot
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      #2

      What do you have planned?

      Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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           @DrLeadFoot

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      • mkoeppM
        mkoeppM
        mkoepp
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        #3

        DrLeadFoot said:

        What do you have planned?

        Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

        I plan on taking all the parts from this

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        and putting in them in the newly acquired shell. It is going to be a M30 to M20 swap. The M20 is a good runner and good on gas plus is a Super eta.  My pa rebuilt the auto trans about 20k ago and I have the car pretty well sorted. Due to the rust I really don’t think it can go another winter and still stay together. I was thinking about taking the drive train out of the 533, it would be much easier and quick but due to the rust on the 528e and the fact the 533 still looks pretty good I have to go with the m20 swap.

        My only concern at this point (and will have many more I am sure) is the brakes. The 535 has hydro and the seta has vacuum.  I have done some research and found the vacuum brakes need intake vac pressure to work. Can I just plug the intake inlet on the M20 and use the hydro brakes? I have to....and should have done more research before posting this but I thought I would throw it out there as it is my main concern at the moment.

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        • EarlE
          EarlE
          Earl
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          #4

          I cannot wait to see this car put back together. It is such a clean shell and looked really good previously. Did you end up getting the euro bumpers with it at all?

          museum sig 2earl.jpg

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          • B
            B
            B C
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            #5

            mkoepp said:

            I plan on taking all the parts from this

            and putting in them in the newly acquired shell. It is going to be a M30 to M20 swap. The M20 is a good runner and good on gas plus is a Super eta.  My pa rebuilt the auto trans about 20k ago and I have the car pretty well sorted. Due to the rust I really don’t think it can go another winter and still stay together. I was thinking about taking the drive train out of the 533, it would be much easier and quick but due to the rust on the 528e and the fact the 533 still looks pretty good I have to go with the m20 swap.

            My only concern at this point (and will have many more I am sure) is the brakes. The 535 has hydro and the seta has vacuum.  I have done some research and found the vacuum brakes need intake vac pressure to work. Can I just plug the intake inlet on the M20 and use the hydro brakes? I have to....and should have done more research before posting this but I thought I would throw it out there as it is my main concern at the moment. 

            THAT'S MY BOY!!!!

            350x196px-7501acaaspeed-2-willem-dafoe.

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            • mkoeppM
              mkoeppM
              mkoepp
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              No I did not. Would have liked to but they aren't cheap and I am limited on funds at the moment.

              Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

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              • Bassboy3313B
                Bassboy3313B
                Bassboy3313
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                #7

                Looking forward to seeing more of this build. Keep it up!

                CHECK OUT >>> RAGE DRIFT DESIGNS <<< FOR DECALS AND MORE!

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                • mkoeppM
                  mkoeppM
                  mkoepp
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Snap said:

                  THAT'S MY BOY!!!!

                  350x196px-7501acaaspeed-2-willem-dafoe.

                  I love my M20. I does not have the "snot" that the M30 does but it has gittyup and enough power to have fun. It is lighter than the M30 and therefore handles better. I can feel the difference. I have the big brakes on the 533 so it stops very nice and very fast. One of the first upgrades I will do on Cosmos after getting it road ready.

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                  • YoungCRY
                    YoungCRY
                    YoungCR
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                    mkoepp said:

                    My only concern at this point (and will have many more I am sure) is the brakes. The 535 has hydro and the seta has vacuum.  I have done some research and found the vacuum brakes need intake vac pressure to work. Can I just plug the intake inlet on the M20 and use the hydro brakes? I have to....and should have done more research before posting this but I thought I would throw it out there as it is my main concern at the moment. 

                    Yay for rescuing more E28's! Swap all of the Vaccum brake parts with the motor and that solves your problem. Guys do this instead of replacing the brake bomb's on their M30 cars. http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=102057

                    Chris Young
                    BMWCCA #458972
                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                    • mkoeppM
                      mkoeppM
                      mkoepp
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      CYoung said:

                      Yay for rescuing more E28's! Swap all of the Vaccum brake parts with the motor and that solves your problem. Guys do this instead of replacing the brake bomb's on their M30 cars. http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=102057

                      So using the hydro brakes is not an option? I planned on pulling the vac setup on the eta but did not want/need to install it at this time. I was just going to keep the setup for a backup if needed.

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                      • YoungCRY
                        YoungCRY
                        YoungCR
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                        mkoepp said:

                        So using the hydro brakes is not an option? I planned on pulling the vac setup on the eta but did not want/need to install it at this time. I was just going to keep the setup for a backup if needed.

                        Hmmm I guess I understand your thinking more now, i'm not sure if its possible or has been done. I think you're charting into a new realm of e28 territory by M20 swapping a M30 car. Only example i can think of that I've read about is that M21 turbo diesel swapped 535is that was for sale. Not sure if he had a build thread on myE28 but you could message him about what he did for the brake set up. You know me, unless I've read about it I don't know how things work!

                        Chris Young
                        BMWCCA #458972
                        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
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                          #12

                          If it was a diesel he probably kept the hydro, they do not have vacuum the same as a gas engine.  Some use vacuum pumps though.

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                          • YoungCRY
                            YoungCRY
                            YoungCR
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            jc43089 said:

                            If it was a diesel he probably kept the hydro, they do not have vacuum the same as a gas engine.  Some use vacuum pumps though.

                            524TD's use vacuum brake booster, M21's are a special diesel!

                            Chris Young
                            BMWCCA #458972
                            1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
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                              #14

                              It has a belt driven vacuum pump then?

                              Another option is to delete the booster using a kit like this.  From a little reading it seems wise to go with a smaller diameter master cylinder to require less pedal force.  Surprised Earl isn't doing this to keep it ultra clean under the hood.  I may actually do this on my e36, undecided yet though.

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • RamRod E28R
                                RamRod E28R
                                RamRod E28
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                                #15

                                Get a g260 behind that seta and a JM performance exhaust and you won't regret it!!!

                                1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!

                                1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?

                                1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)

                                1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)

                                1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)

                                1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)

                                2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)

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                                • EarlE
                                  EarlE
                                  Earl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  jc43089 said:

                                  It has a belt driven vacuum pump then?

                                  Another option is to delete the booster using a kit like this.  From a little reading it seems wise to go with a smaller diameter master cylinder to require less pedal force.  Surprised Earl isn't doing this to keep it ultra clean under the hood.  I may actually do this on my e36, undecided yet though.

                                  I am doing a Massive Brakes delete haha

                                  museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                                  • jc43089J
                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
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                                    #17

                                    ^ I called that one.  I meant to link their site: http://www.massivebrakes.com/brake-systems.php?p=brake-booster-delete

                                    Have you driven a car without power brakes?  I have not, and am curious what it is like.  Although proper sizing will make the difference between good and bad I suppose.

                                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                    • EarlE
                                      EarlE
                                      Earl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I have not, but in the name of simplifying everything, I will suffer through it=)

                                      museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
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                                        #19

                                        Less isnt always more. Countersteering in a rwd car w/o powersteering sucks

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                                        • EarlE
                                          EarlE
                                          Earl
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          Oh well=) I have driven cars without power steering and above 20mph doesnt bother me at all

                                          museum sig 2earl.jpg

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