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ClassE 1989 325IS Build Thread

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    #277

    The M20 is quite well optimized out of the box and in my opinion the two areas where people go horribly wrong on NA M20 builds is changing to a piston which does not match the squish area of the combustion chamber and not taking advantage of pressure wave tuning on the intake manifold. 

    -short runner length/no plenum

    -low air velocity at low rpm with itbs

    -large camshaft required to match intake selection

    -high compression pistons required to keep static and dynamic compression ratios happy due to large cam

    -pistons without the proper squish area due to the requirement to have high compression as well as valve clearance due to large cam

    It would be like disabling the VTEC system on a honda. It's removing the secret sauce that makes it perform the way it does.

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    • jc43089J
      jc43089J
      jc43089
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      #278

      Well that too, if you want to get into the details.

      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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      • B
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        #279

        you cant be a bastard e-thug forum troll and not backup your opinions with a little bit of food for thought.

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        • ClassEC
          ClassEC
          ClassE
          wrote on last edited by
          #280

          I have a burning hatred of the M20 intake manifold, if I keep that platform it will have to be changed to something (SRI, ITB's, ANYTHING else). I'm open to a lot of ideas... Just not keeping that ugly ass mani.

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            #281

            it is quite crab-o-rific,   Make the V12 manifold work for you

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            • ClassEC
              ClassEC
              ClassE
              wrote on last edited by
              #282

              I've thought quite a bit on that. Also the possibility of having a custom SRI made with velocity stacks utilizing the stock flange/injector mounts (which is what I had on my MK3 - sounded amazing at WOT and great power):

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              • DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFootD
                DrLeadFoot
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                #283

                Voting for polished V12 manifold.

                Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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                     @DrLeadFoot

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                  Rowleym
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                  #284

                  I happen to have 3 extra m20 intake manifold I could cut up and make manifolds with! 

                  I would very much so like to do a set of ITB's :) 

                  I could be the test dummy for this, and fabricate it as well, but I need a little help designing! Which throttle bodies would you use? Or would you build your own? 

                  I could start on this whenever! I would like to see an hx40 on my brothers e30 along with some ITB's. I  think it would be perfect.

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                  sk8 or die

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                    #285

                    When I was toying with the calculations I believe I determined that the stock M20 manifold operated on either the 2nd or 3rd harmonic. If you guys are serious about a custom manifold then I would be willing to dive into it again for size/length calcs to see what it would look like or if its even possible to do a 1st harmonic tuned manifold.

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                      Rowleym
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                      #286

                      Snap said:

                       When I was toying with the calculations I believe I determined that the stock M20 manifold operated on either the 2nd or 3rd harmonic. If you guys are serious about a custom manifold then I would be willing to dive into it again for size/length calcs to see what it would look like or if its even possible to do a 1st harmonic tuned manifold.

                      Snap said:

                       When I was toying with the calculations I believe I determined that the stock M20 manifold operated on either the 2nd or 3rd harmonic. If you guys are serious about a custom manifold then I would be willing to dive into it again for size/length calcs to see what it would look like or if its even possible to do a 1st harmonic tuned manifold.

                      Yea I'm Seriously serious. I have the resources to produce a couple real quick. And I wan't one

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                      sk8 or die

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                      • ClassEC
                        ClassEC
                        ClassE
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                        #287

                        I like where this is headed......

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                        • ClassEC
                          ClassEC
                          ClassE
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #288

                          I have been eyeing up parts from these guys for awhile:

                          http://www.racehead.com.au

                          I hadn't thought much on bike carbs or such - let me do some thinking on that. I was invisioning buying an ITB set-up and customizing the stock lower portion of the original manifold to accept the bolt pattern.

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                          • EarlE
                            EarlE
                            Earl
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                            http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118014

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                            • ClassEC
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                              ClassE
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                              #290

                              We can get back to ITB's later - I could use a hand sorting this out:

                              ClassE said:

                              Well.... Might have found the culprit for my slight grinding from rear. Not sure:

                              Rotated wheel ends from both sides - couldn't hear anything troublesome, only noise was a slight "whine" from diff. So put new pads in passenger side and reassembled - turned over to same results. Put rotor back on drivers side and turned over by hand. "GGRRIIINNDDD"

                              Ruh-oh

                              Checked to make sure ebrake was fully disengaged, rotated again and got the same sound. Removed rotor and found these on inside of rotor:

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                              2 separate cracks, about 60 degrees apart. I swapped rotors side-to-side and got same grinding.... So not sure if it's the issue.

                              Shoes are seated firmly against backing plate, springs seem to be under good tension, and brake appears to be operating normally. There was some heat cracking on shoes - but not excessive wear.

                              Thoughts?

                              Don't have a lot of experience replacing shoes/springs, so will have to do some research in the AM.

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                              • EarlE
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                                Earl
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                                #291

                                New rotors should be the fix=)

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                                • ClassEC
                                  ClassEC
                                  ClassE
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                                  #292

                                  I would agree - except when I swapped rotors the noise stayed the same.... Makes me think something on the shoes needs adjusting or replacing?

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                                  • KaiserRollsK
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                                    KaiserRolls
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #293

                                    ClassE said:

                                    I have a burning hatred of the M20 intake manifold, if I keep that platform it will have to be changed to something (SRI, ITB's, ANYTHING else). I'm open to a lot of ideas... Just not keeping that ugly ass mani.

                                    M30 swap

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #294

                                      does the sound change as you pull up on the handbrake ? 

                                      My original handbrake shoes had chunks missing from them

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                                      • ClassEC
                                        ClassEC
                                        ClassE
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #295

                                        Snap said:

                                        does the sound change as you pull up on the handbrake ?

                                        My original handbrake shoes had chunks missing from them

                                        Not while driving.

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                                        • ClassEC
                                          ClassEC
                                          ClassE
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                                          #296

                                          KaiserRolls said:

                                          M30 swap

                                          Sideways squid is just as ugly.

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