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  • Bassboy3313B
    Bassboy3313B
    Bassboy3313
    wrote on last edited by
    #144

    filling the PVC with sand, capping the ends and using a little heat while bending helps keep the PVC from kinking. But either way, looking good!

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    • JdesignJ
      JdesignJ
      Jdesign
      wrote on last edited by
      #145

      That's how they make jacked race headers for boats. They have two tubes, one inside the other, and fill the void with sand before bending. The only difference here is that its PVC and not stainless.

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      • HipMFH
        HipMFH
        HipMF
        wrote on last edited by
        #146

        Started out the weekend by trying to impulse-buy a band saw, but couldn't find anything locally that didn't look like more trouble than it would be worth. So, we're back to doing things the Mike way (aka the hardest way possible).

        I picked up a bunch of 2.5" radius U-bends, so first order of business was to come up with a way to cut them straight and square so that they mate together nicely. Not having gaps where the tubes butt together should make it a lot easier to weld. I decided a jig that the tube could sit in with a slot to hold the sawsall blade straight would probably work.

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        I've only tried it once so far, but it seems to work really well. Better than expected actually.

        The next hurdle was to figure out how to oval the end of the tubes so that they can mate up nicely to the exhaust ports on the head. I had researched this one a while back, and the best solution I found was to create a die that's the same shape as the port, and then hammer the tube down onto the die.

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        Decent!

        The last area that I'm concerned about is the collector. The tubes need two long tapered cuts at 90 degrees to each other. I had basically given up on figuring out how to do it with the tools I have and was going buy a stationary belt/disc sander to mount a jig to, but at the last minute I came up with a different plan.

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        Ben is very concerned for my safety, and I'm willing to admit that this probably isn't one of my best ideas. I gave it a go with some PVC, and it seems to work well enough. The cuts aren't super straight, and will need some hand-finishing. I was also eye-balling the 90 degree turn for the second cut, so it didn't turn out perfect, but if I can figure out a better way to do that it should be good enough to get by.

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        I still haven't gotten flanges made, so I couldn't really start building anything yet, but I'd say it's going pretty well so far.

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        • YoungCRY
          YoungCRY
          YoungCR
          wrote on last edited by
          #147

          I envy your craftsmanship but you're also crazy!

          Chris Young
          BMWCCA #458972
          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          • B
            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #148

            Very impressive ingenuity as usual!

            Perhaps these may be helpful?

            its not the way its usually merged for a turbine flange but it may prevent a headache or two

            https://caautoparts.com/products/2-25-4-4-1-exhaust-merge-collector-excol-225-4-ss?variant=40443660105&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8bGJ4IPg3gIVhbjACh1EFQBcEAQYCSABEgJpxPD_BwE

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            • JdesignJ
              JdesignJ
              Jdesign
              wrote on last edited by
              #149

              Might I suggest a band-saw? No really, You work a few blocks from me and I should have everything you need here besides your car. Mark what you need cut and shoot me a text and come cut it. ;D

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              • suspencefulS
                suspencefulS
                suspenceful
                wrote on last edited by
                #150

                I enjoy the DIY-style of your builds.

                I also think you would benefit from a band saw.

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                • Bassboy3313B
                  Bassboy3313B
                  Bassboy3313
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #151

                  band saw for sure. I ended up getting the portaband from Harbor freight. Slapped a Milwaukee blade on it and welded up a stand for it as well. Works wonders for these kinds of things.

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                  • HipMFH
                    HipMFH
                    HipMF
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #152

                    snap said:

                    Very impressive ingenuity as usual!

                    Perhaps these may be helpful?

                    its not the way its usually merged for a turbine flange but it may prevent a headache or two

                    https://caautoparts.com/products/2-25-4-4-1-exhaust-merge-collector-excol-225-4-ss?variant=40443660105&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8bGJ4IPg3gIVhbjACh1EFQBcEAQYCSABEgJpxPD_BwE

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                    If I fail at DIYing one, I could do something like that, but I don't accept defeat easily...

                    There isn't really a need to transition to a round tube, because the turbo inlet is kind of square-ish anyway. I planned on cutting the turbo flange to the shape of the pipes to make life easier.

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                    • HipMFH
                      HipMFH
                      HipMF
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #153

                      Jdesign said:

                      Might I suggest a band-saw? No really, You work a few blocks from me and I should have everything you need here besides your car. Mark what you need cut and shoot me a text and come cut it. ;D

                      This could be an option.

                      The problem isn't as much the tool that's being used to do the cutting as it is holding the tube in the proper position while it's being cut. Even if I had a nice bandsaw, I would still need a "sled" to hold the tube at the correct angle, and a way to rotate it exactly 90 degrees before making the 2nd cut.

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                      • JdesignJ
                        JdesignJ
                        Jdesign
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #154

                        HipMF said:

                        This could be an option.

                        The problem isn't as much the tool that's being used to do the cutting as it is holding the tube in the proper position while it's being cut. Even if I had a nice bandsaw, I would still need a "sled" to hold the tube at the correct angle, and a way to rotate it exactly 90 degrees before making the 2nd cut.

                        That's very true, but I find it hard to imaging that Frankenstein clever set up you have not shaking you into a seizure while trying to make a precise cut. 😉

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                        • HipMFH
                          HipMFH
                          HipMF
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #155

                          Bassboy3313 said:

                          band saw for sure. I ended up getting the portaband from Harbor freight. Slapped a Milwaukee blade on it and welded up a stand for it as well. Works wonders for these kinds of things. 

                          Was checking these out and they look pretty decent actually. The porta-bands I've used have been way better saws than any of the cheap band saws I've ever used.

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #156

                            That watermark is way too coincidental, also looks way to legit to have your name on it 😄
                            That being said, seems like you could have better results with a setup like that.

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                            • HipMFH
                              HipMFH
                              HipMF
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #157

                              Merge collector saga continues...

                              I came up with a jig to use the sawzall contraction to cut the tubes (piece of angle iron, some door shims, and electrical tape). Tried it out and was not satisfied with the results. After that, I came up with a different plan to make a jig with the CNC router and the mill at work. However, in the interest of actually getting something done, I changed my mind and just did it the way I usually do things. The hard way.

                              Everything needed to build a merge collector:

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                              Many hours spent on this. Will just buy a collector next time.

                              I forgot the camera at home, and didn't take any in-process pictures. The results turned out okay though. Some small gaps, but shouldn't cause a problem.

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                              Next step is to make a turbo flange. After that I'll finally be able to do the fun part.

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                              • HipMFH
                                HipMFH
                                HipMF
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #158

                                Mill-drill sending a 1.5" holesaw cup through 3/8" steel like it was butter.

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                                The trick with hole saws is to set the RPM as low as it will go and leave the belts loose to act as a clutch in case things go south. Very little heat generated, and the cup is still sharp. Could probably do this all day without wrecking it, compared to using a drill press which will burn it up trying to up drill through sheet metal...

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                                • HipMFH
                                  HipMFH
                                  HipMF
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #159

                                  Did some precision sawzalling

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                                  Finished up with the grinder.

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                                  Flattened out the top of the collector and tacked that on.

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                                  And started running some tubes.

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                                  Looking good so far. Unfortunately it will have to come back apart to get welded. I'll have to pull the collector apart to weld 360 degrees around the tubes that connect to it. It'll be a challenge to get at everything that needs to be welded. Will definitely have to sit down and practice on some scrap before I start on this.

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #160

                                    Can confirm that this stuff is shaping up to be quite awesome. 

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                                    • HipMFH
                                      HipMFH
                                      HipMF
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #161

                                      More progress.

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                                      After figuring out where to run the last two pipes I decided to take it back apart and start welding stuff. My welding isn't pretty but it should be good enough.

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                                      Where I left off tonight.

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                                      Test fit in the car. It's snug.

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                                      I've still have some more welding to do, but I'm pretty happy with how it's shaping up. It was a pretty ambitious project, so I'll be happy when I'm at the point where I can cross "manifold" off the to-do list.  Hopefully I'll have some time this week to make a flange for the downpipe. That will be the next project.

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                                      • B
                                        B
                                        B C
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #162

                                        Great work, Mike! 

                                        Im enjoying these updates

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                                        • HipMFH
                                          HipMFH
                                          HipMF
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #163

                                          snap said:

                                          Great work, Mike! 

                                          Im enjoying these updates

                                          Thanks. The goal is to have the car running by April. It's hard to believe the engine has been out of the car for 7 weeks already, so if anything I'm probably a little behind schedule. The header is obviously the most complicated and difficult part as far as fabrication is considered, so hopefully things will start to come together faster after I get the exhaust sorted out.

                                          I'm also planning to build a legit ECU harness from scratch, so that will take some time. Sustained progress will be the key to meeting my self-imposed deadline, so you can look forward to weekly updates until spring.

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