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  • Ryan...R
    Ryan...R
    Ryan...
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    #15

    patsbimmer1 said:

    Sounds like you've already made up your mind but your using us to test your ability to defend your choice.  Fuck financially sound decisions.  Follow your dreams and hope for the best!

    I'm trying to be reasonable lol  It doesn't help that my girlfriend is whispering into my ear that she thinks I should drive down to IL to get one RIGHT NOW :D

    I'm still looking, but I did talk to the dealer with this guy:  https://www.saintcharlesmotorcars.com/2007_Land Rover_Range Rover_Saint Charles_IL_17749004.veh#    and they're putting together some numbers for me right now. I do intend to go drive a bunch of 4x4 vehicles when I'm down there.

    I did see an Audi Q7 that looked OK, but it kind of falls into the "meh" category when stacked up against the Rover. Plus, it's an Audi, so I can't do that..

    2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

    2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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    • patsbimmer1P
      patsbimmer1P
      patsbimmer1
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      #16

      It's certainly a good looking vehicle and supercharged!

      I think a mistake a lot of people make in most areas of life is assuming we are smarter than everyone else.  Recognizing this and asking why a trend exists is important.  So the question you should ask yourself in this instance is why are other similar vehicles that people may also cross shop are more expensive with more miles on them.  It's probably not because you found some underserved used car market where people have just passed over the Range Rover by mistake and it's secretly a great buy with great reliability and will hold its value as the miles rack up.  That's not a knock against you at all, just trying to expand some perspective.

      Fuck it though, if it's what you want then you won't complain about the problems but if you settle then the smallest issues may throw you over the edge.

      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
      95 325is *sold*
      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

      BMWCCA #473306

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      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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      • Ryan...R
        Ryan...R
        Ryan...
        wrote on last edited by
        #17

        patsbimmer1 said:

        It's certainly a good looking vehicle and supercharged!

        I think a mistake a lot of people make in most areas of life is assuming we are smarter than everyone else.  Recognizing this and asking why a trend exists is important.  So the question you should ask yourself in this instance is why are other similar vehicles that people may also cross shop are more expensive with more miles on them.  It's probably not because you found some underserved used car market where people have just passed over the Range Rover by mistake and it's secretly a great buy with great reliability and will hold its value as the miles rack up.  That's not a knock against you at all, just trying to expand some perspective.

        Fuck it though, if it's what you want then you won't complain about the problems but if you settle then the smallest issues may throw you over the edge.

        I appreciate the time you're taking to respond and, the honesty!

        I think I've read enough about them at this point that if I'm not sufficiently scared away, I'm going to quite literally say "Fuck It" to pull the trigger. It bit me in the ass with the 996, and this probably will  too :D

        I put a $500 refundable deposit down on the one linked above. I'm going to go drive it tomorrow morning after work, inspect it, and make my decision then. A lot of it will come down to how they want to play with the numbers. They know what I want for the truck, so if they try any funny business I'm walking.

        2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

        2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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          D
          Daggerty
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          #18

          https://madison.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2007-mercedes-benz-ml63-amg/6557833244.html who needs a supercharger? 

          my cousin owns a Range Rover very similar to year and mileage above. He does everything himself. Hasn't really had major issues, or crazy costs.

          the Range Rover falls into the category of "well that's really expensive too fix" and yeah it a good 4x4 but someone would rather have a good old American jeep for the price. There is an enthusiast group but not large enough to create a price premium, like a bmw. 

          I agree with certain parts will have a high price.

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          • Ryan...R
            Ryan...R
            Ryan...
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            Daggerty said:

            https://madison.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2007-mercedes-benz-ml63-amg/6557833244.html who needs a supercharger? 

            my cousin owns a Range Rover very similar to year and mileage above. He does everything himself. Hasn't really had major issues, or crazy costs.

            the Range Rover falls into the category of "well that's really expensive too fix" and yeah it a good 4x4 but someone would rather have a good old American jeep for the price. There is an enthusiast group but not large enough to create a price premium, like a bmw. 

            I agree with certain parts will have a high price. 

            ^^That's the Mercedes I mentioned above. If it didn't look so much like a minivan hybrid I'd be all about it :)

            Eventually I'll find my way back into a clean Jeep Cherokee XJ, small lift, some nice 33's, etc... Now's the time for mistakes that'll make memories that haunt for a lifetime!

            2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

            2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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            • Ryan...R
              Ryan...R
              Ryan...
              wrote on last edited by
              #20

              I ended up not buying the silver 07 linked above. I drove 2 hours to go look at it, they decided not to honor the price they said they would pay me for my trade in (over $2k less), then I found that the steering rack was leaking fluid at an alarming rate.

              Other than the fluid leak, it felt phenomenal. If they were to fix that issue and come back with a more appropriate trade in price or adjust the asking price of the Range Rover I wouldn't hesitate to buy it tomorrow. 

              Oh well.

              2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

              2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
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                #21

                So it goes.  Something I learned while looking for my M3, negotiate via email.  That gives you a written record of the conversations.  Not that they're obligated to honor it but it gives you leverage.

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                BMWCCA #473306

                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                • Ryan...R
                  Ryan...R
                  Ryan...
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  patsbimmer1 said:

                  So it goes.  Something I learned while looking for my M3, negotiate via email.  That gives you a written record of the conversations.  Not that they're obligated to honor it but it gives you leverage.

                  That's a damn good point. Going forward I'll be getting that as well, because I spent the vast majority of my day in IL, and now I'm heading into work with 3.25hrs of crappy sleep...

                  2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                  2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                  • Ryan...R
                    Ryan...R
                    Ryan...
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    GUYS

                    I did it..... 2007 Range Rover Sport, 4.2 supercharged :)

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                    2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                    2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      Very nice! Lots of power?

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                      • Ryan...R
                        Ryan...R
                        Ryan...
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #25

                        snap said:

                        Very nice! Lots of power?

                        It feels comparably quick to my departed 2.7 ecoboost F150, but the way this thing accelerates from 50-80mph is exceptionally great [emoji4]

                        This is also about 650lbs heavier than my truck lol

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                        2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                        2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                        • YoungCRY
                          YoungCRY
                          YoungCR
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                          #26

                          Bets on what will break first?? Haha congrats man. Maybe I’ll have a better chance of spotting you around town again.

                          Chris Young
                          BMWCCA #458972
                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                          • D
                            D
                            Daggerty
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                            #27

                            What mods are in store?

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                            • D
                              D
                              Daggerty
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                              #28

                              I have some Mobil one jet oil left over if you want to change your s/c oil

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #29

                                that is a gorgeous vehicle!

                                Dan
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                                • Ryan...R
                                  Ryan...R
                                  Ryan...
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  Daggerty said:

                                  What mods are in store?

                                  Probably nothing much honestly, going to put aside time/money for maintenance that I'm sure is coming..

                                  I wanted black wheels, so I may paint these, undecided yet.. But, for sure I'll be going up to 275/45/20 Cooper Zeon LTZ tires (stock sized 275/40/20 Yokos on it now), and a muffler delete so I can actually hear something.. 

                                  Daggerty said:

                                  I have some Mobil one jet oil left over if you want to change your s/c oil

                                  I do need to change that..

                                  straight6pwr said:

                                  that is a gorgeous vehicle!

                                  Thanks!

                                  YoungCR said:

                                  Bets on what will break first?? Haha congrats man. Maybe I’ll have a better chance of spotting you around town again.

                                  I'm just waiting for the CEL to pop on lol

                                   The BRAKE light was flashing earlier when I started it, turned the vehicle off, turned back on and the light was gone....

                                  2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                                  2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                                  • patsbimmer1P
                                    patsbimmer1P
                                    patsbimmer1
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #31

                                    Ryan... said:

                                    Probably nothing much honestly, going to put aside time/money for maintenance that I'm sure is coming..

                                    I wanted black wheels, so I may paint these, undecided yet.. But, for sure I'll be going up to 275/45/20 Cooper Zeon LTZ tires (stock sized 275/40/20 Yokos on it now), and a muffler delete so I can actually hear something.

                                    Have you had Zeon's before?

                                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                    95 325is *sold*
                                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                    BMWCCA #473306

                                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                    • Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...R
                                      Ryan...
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      patsbimmer1 said:

                                      Have you had Zeon's before?

                                      I have not, I've run other Cooper's before, and the Zeon seem to have a pretty decent reviews on the Rover forums from what I've seen so far.

                                      Unfortunately there don't seem to be too many options 4 all-terrain tires in the 275 45 20 size.

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                                      2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                                      2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                                      • patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #33

                                        Ryan... said:

                                        I have not, I've run other Cooper's before, and the Zeon seem to have a pretty decent reviews on the Rover forums from what I've seen so far.

                                        Unfortunately there don't seem to be too many options 4 all-terrain tires in the 275 45 20 size.

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                                        I'm not a big fan.  They're an OK tire but i'm not sure they even make it anymore.  Outside of that weird ass size you need an XL load rating for the vehicle and it does call for a fairly high speed rating at a Y.  Pirelli has a new All Terrain but not in your size.  The smallest aspect ratio they have right now is 275/55r20.  The speed rating is what's going to kill your search for an All-Terrain since a lot of those will be S or T rated.

                                        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                        95 325is *sold*
                                        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                        BMWCCA #473306

                                        Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                        • Ryan...R
                                          Ryan...R
                                          Ryan...
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                                          patsbimmer1 said:

                                          I'm not a big fan.  They're an OK tire but i'm not sure they even make it anymore.  Outside of that weird ass size you need an XL load rating for the vehicle and it does call for a fairly high speed rating at a Y.  Pirelli has a new All Terrain but not in your size.  The smallest aspect ratio they have right now is 275/55r20.  The speed rating is what's going to kill your search for an All-Terrain since a lot of those will be S or T rated.

                                          Yeah it's really the only one they make in my size unfortunately. Kind of screwed because the OEM 275/40/20 has no options in anything, the OEM 19 sizes are even worse, and I don't think I can actually run a 275/55/20 without scraping/rubbing issues.

                                          2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                                          2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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