Range Rover....
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I should have axed, are there any other 4x4 vehicles in the $8-15k price point that you recommend? I do want something nice, 4 doors, cargo space is nice, not necessarily looking for another truck.
I've looked a little bit at the X5 (I even glanced in the direction of an X6), old 4Runners, Wranglers (dislike just about every other modern Jeep), Porsche Cayenne, etc...
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Is it typically the parts that are adding up to that, or is labor just that much of a bitch on them? I've looked up the cost of suspension bits and other misc stuff, and it does seem pricey but not far off from what I was expecting it to be.
It's parts. The air suspension is very expensive on them and seem to be a common failure. Brakes can be slightly more expensive than a BMW if you buy quality parts. They're not really hard to work on.
I should have axed, are there any other 4x4 vehicles in the $8-15k price point that you recommend? I do want something nice, 4 doors, cargo space is nice, not necessarily looking for another truck.
I've looked a little bit at the X5 (I even glanced in the direction of an X6), old 4Runners, Wranglers (dislike just about every other modern Jeep), Porsche Cayenne, etc...
Volvo XC90! We've had ours for a few years now and love it! The thing is an absolute beast in the snow and has the most comfortable seats I have ever sat in! Also, it's been very reliable for us. We've put on almost 30k and i've only done tires, brakes and oil changes. We have the 3.2 and it's not going to win any races any time soon but i'll take the comfort and reliability trade off.
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I really like the Lexus GX470 and any Land Cruiser seems to hold its value like crazy
Thing is, I'm sure they're great vehicles and significantly more reliable than the Rover, but for the same price as the rover they all have 20-50k more miles lol
Plus, aesthetically speaking, they do nothing for me.*except the old Land Cruisers, those are sweet.
Land Cruiser FTW. Mine is ancient and still works great
An FJ60 would be a horrible daily driver though. It's like a covered wagon with a tractor engine.Yeah I definitely want something newer with creature comforts as I drive 20-25k a year, most of it at 60-70mph.
It's parts. The air suspension is very expensive on them and seem to be a common failure. Brakes can be slightly more expensive than a BMW if you buy quality parts. They're not really hard to work on.
Volvo XC90! We've had ours for a few years now and love it! The thing is an absolute beast in the snow and has the most comfortable seats I have ever sat in! Also, it's been very reliable for us. We've put on almost 30k and i've only done tires, brakes and oil changes. We have the 3.2 and it's not going to win any races any time soon but i'll take the comfort and reliability trade off.
Yeah the suspension has been about 95% of the most problematic areas. It's nice know there are cheap-ish coilover kits to completely eliminate the issue if it comes to that
I did look at a 2012 XC90, same price as the Range Rover, but had 44k more miles on it
*here it is: https://rockford.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2012-volvo-xc90-32-premier/6545282185.html
Kind of the same boat as the GX470, the exterior/interior really doesn't do anything for me. It's not bad looking, but I don't see anything exciting about it that would make it easier to part with my F150
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Sounds like you've already made up your mind but your using us to test your ability to defend your choice. Fuck financially sound decisions. Follow your dreams and hope for the best!
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Sounds like you've already made up your mind but your using us to test your ability to defend your choice. Fuck financially sound decisions. Follow your dreams and hope for the best!
I'm trying to be reasonable lol It doesn't help that my girlfriend is whispering into my ear that she thinks I should drive down to IL to get one RIGHT NOW
I'm still looking, but I did talk to the dealer with this guy: https://www.saintcharlesmotorcars.com/2007_Land Rover_Range Rover_Saint Charles_IL_17749004.veh# and they're putting together some numbers for me right now. I do intend to go drive a bunch of 4x4 vehicles when I'm down there.
I did see an Audi Q7 that looked OK, but it kind of falls into the "meh" category when stacked up against the Rover. Plus, it's an Audi, so I can't do that..
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It's certainly a good looking vehicle and supercharged!
I think a mistake a lot of people make in most areas of life is assuming we are smarter than everyone else. Recognizing this and asking why a trend exists is important. So the question you should ask yourself in this instance is why are other similar vehicles that people may also cross shop are more expensive with more miles on them. It's probably not because you found some underserved used car market where people have just passed over the Range Rover by mistake and it's secretly a great buy with great reliability and will hold its value as the miles rack up. That's not a knock against you at all, just trying to expand some perspective.
Fuck it though, if it's what you want then you won't complain about the problems but if you settle then the smallest issues may throw you over the edge.
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It's certainly a good looking vehicle and supercharged!
I think a mistake a lot of people make in most areas of life is assuming we are smarter than everyone else. Recognizing this and asking why a trend exists is important. So the question you should ask yourself in this instance is why are other similar vehicles that people may also cross shop are more expensive with more miles on them. It's probably not because you found some underserved used car market where people have just passed over the Range Rover by mistake and it's secretly a great buy with great reliability and will hold its value as the miles rack up. That's not a knock against you at all, just trying to expand some perspective.
Fuck it though, if it's what you want then you won't complain about the problems but if you settle then the smallest issues may throw you over the edge.
I appreciate the time you're taking to respond and, the honesty!
I think I've read enough about them at this point that if I'm not sufficiently scared away, I'm going to quite literally say "Fuck It" to pull the trigger. It bit me in the ass with the 996, and this probably will too
I put a $500 refundable deposit down on the one linked above. I'm going to go drive it tomorrow morning after work, inspect it, and make my decision then. A lot of it will come down to how they want to play with the numbers. They know what I want for the truck, so if they try any funny business I'm walking.
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https://madison.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2007-mercedes-benz-ml63-amg/6557833244.html who needs a supercharger?
my cousin owns a Range Rover very similar to year and mileage above. He does everything himself. Hasn't really had major issues, or crazy costs.
the Range Rover falls into the category of "well that's really expensive too fix" and yeah it a good 4x4 but someone would rather have a good old American jeep for the price. There is an enthusiast group but not large enough to create a price premium, like a bmw.
I agree with certain parts will have a high price.
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https://madison.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2007-mercedes-benz-ml63-amg/6557833244.html who needs a supercharger?
my cousin owns a Range Rover very similar to year and mileage above. He does everything himself. Hasn't really had major issues, or crazy costs.
the Range Rover falls into the category of "well that's really expensive too fix" and yeah it a good 4x4 but someone would rather have a good old American jeep for the price. There is an enthusiast group but not large enough to create a price premium, like a bmw.
I agree with certain parts will have a high price.
^^That's the Mercedes I mentioned above. If it didn't look so much like a minivan hybrid I'd be all about it
Eventually I'll find my way back into a clean Jeep Cherokee XJ, small lift, some nice 33's, etc... Now's the time for mistakes that'll make memories that haunt for a lifetime!
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I ended up not buying the silver 07 linked above. I drove 2 hours to go look at it, they decided not to honor the price they said they would pay me for my trade in (over $2k less), then I found that the steering rack was leaking fluid at an alarming rate.
Other than the fluid leak, it felt phenomenal. If they were to fix that issue and come back with a more appropriate trade in price or adjust the asking price of the Range Rover I wouldn't hesitate to buy it tomorrow.
Oh well.
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So it goes. Something I learned while looking for my M3, negotiate via email. That gives you a written record of the conversations. Not that they're obligated to honor it but it gives you leverage.
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So it goes. Something I learned while looking for my M3, negotiate via email. That gives you a written record of the conversations. Not that they're obligated to honor it but it gives you leverage.
That's a damn good point. Going forward I'll be getting that as well, because I spent the vast majority of my day in IL, and now I'm heading into work with 3.25hrs of crappy sleep...
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