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  • m42b32M
    m42b32M
    m42b32
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    #539

    MS43 bench flash update! 

    Initially I was having problems getting anything to connect. I forgot to connect pin 4 of the female OBD2 plug (chassis ground) to ground on my harness so I corrected that, and with the help of some fantastic documentation on the ms43wiki, I used a hex editor to modify Galletto to accept the FTDI chip serial number of my USB to OBD2 cable. I am now able to connect to the ECU to Galletto and read the 64kb 'tune' files. I also brought the newly pulled files into TunerPro to poke around, but the XDF I am using is written for MS430056 and my ecu is currently MS430066 so none of the values align or make sense. 

    The EWS delete tune that I will be using is a full 512kb flash of the ECU that will also change it to version 0056. This full flash needs to be done in JMGarageFlasher, as Galletto cannot do the full 512kb files as far as I know. So far, I have not been able to get the program to connect at all. I believe at least part of the problem is the USB to OBD2 cable I am using, so I have ordered another that people seem to have had success with. That should come in sometime next week so we'll see if that makes a difference.

    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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    • m42b32M
      m42b32M
      m42b32
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      #540

      With the new cable I was able to connect to the ECU in boot mode on JMGarageFlasher without any issues and read the full (512kb) file. Once I had a copy of the original software, I did a full write with the new MS430056 software from "daniel f." on e46fanatics/MS43wiki that has both EWS and checksum CHK5 disabled! Once that process was complete, I connected the ECU via Galletto and read the new partial flash, pulled it into TunerPro:

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      The software now shows up as version 0056 instead of the original 0066, meaning the flash was a success!! This is big progress towards getting this on the road. With this basic EWS delete the m54 should be able start, idle, and rev to a limited 5500rpm, which is all I need at this point. 

      I will, however, get a whole slew of trouble codes and errors, one of them being a 5500rpm 'limp mode' caused by a missing speed sensor signal. I can use TunerPro to remove this limiter (or get the ECU to accept the e30 speed sensor signal), as well as disable any unnecessary DTC's, force emissions readiness, etc. I'll only want to start messing with this after I get the car running though, that way I can eliminate screwing up the ECU if/when I'm trouble shooting.

      1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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      • KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRollsK
        KaiserRolls
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        #541

        I have no idea what I just read

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          #542

          KaiserRolls said:

          I have no idea what I just read

          It's all just a 0 or 1, how hard can it be...

          Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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            #543

            That seems pretty fun to learn how to do, im sure its child's play for someone like @HipMF 
            The one time I played around in TunerPro with a 413 DME bin file I was sad at how unintuitive things were and how confused it made me. 
            Its not possible to do live tuning on MS43 is it??

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            • JdesignJ
              JdesignJ
              Jdesign
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              #544

              I have no idea what any of that means besides progress. I like progress. Carry on.

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              • HipMFH
                HipMFH
                HipMF
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                #545

                snap said:

                That seems pretty fun to learn how to do, im sure its child's play for someone like @HipMF 

                Not really. I still don't know what Galletto or JMGarageFlasher is... assuming software...

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                • jc43089J
                  jc43089J
                  jc43089
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                  #546

                  HipMF said:

                  Not really. I still don't know what Galletto or JMGarageFlasher is... assuming software...

                  Nah I think Galletto is those things for removing facial hair...

                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  • m42b32M
                    m42b32M
                    m42b32
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #547

                    snap said:

                    That seems pretty fun to learn how to do, im sure its child's play for someone like @HipMF 
                    The one time I played around in TunerPro with a 413 DME bin file I was sad at how unintuitive things were and how confused it made me. 
                    Its not possible to do live tuning on MS43 is it??

                    I don't believe anyone has figured out how unfortunately, that would be awesome if you could. You can do logging with something like RomRaider, and flashing a tune only takes a minute or two, so you could probably iterate pretty quickly!

                    HipMF said:

                    Not really. I still don't know what Galletto or JMGarageFlasher is... assuming software...

                    Yup! They're both software (and free!). Galletto allows you to flash partial files without putting the ECU into boot mode. The partial file on ms43 is 64kb, and contains all the information/parameters related to actually running the engine like fuel and ignition maps, basically the 'tune'. When you use something like a shark injector, this is what it is modifying. JMGarageFlasher is also free software, but is specifically designed for doing a complete flash of MS43 (aka replacing ALL data on the chips) with a 512kb file. This allows you to completely erase and re-write the ECU's data. The 512kb file contains things like EWS, checksums (internal values that are invalidated when anything is modified, preventing you from starting the car), and a bunch of other stuff I don't understand. Thankfully, this full flash only needs to be done once, and then any tuning and modifying beyond that is done with Galletto and partial flash files. 

                    There is a TON of information on ms43wiki.com, and then a few really helpful threads on e46fanatics. That's basically where I'm getting all the software, EWS delete file, and tutorials on how to do things. Its actually very interesting to dig into!

                    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                      B
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                      #548

                      When I was looking into Rom Raider the sample rate didnt appear conducive to accurate tuning. Still, OBD2 logging for diagnostic purposes is a very valuable thing and worth having OBD2 for. I just think I will end up with MS3 if I decide to sound the trumpets on my build.

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                      • m42b32M
                        m42b32M
                        m42b32
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #549

                        snap said:

                        When I was looking into Rom Raider the sample rate didnt appear conducive to accurate tuning. Still, OBD2 logging for diagnostic purposes is a very valuable thing and worth having OBD2 for. I just think I will end up with MS3 if I decide to sound the trumpets on my build. 

                        Hadn't really looked into it so that's good to know!

                        Trumpets would be awesome!

                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
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                          #550

                          Made some longer studs and got the e46 oil level sensor mounted in the e34 oil pan 

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                          Finished re-wrapping the e39 main engine harness and cleaned up the coil harness, got both installed as far as I can for now

                          41222103442802e2a87b2b.jpg

                          I also started cleaning the engine bay a bit. I'm not going to paint it as I don't have a good way of going about it in my current garage, so a decent clean will have to do. Someday I'll pull everything apart and clean and paint it all properly. Planning to get started on the master cylinder/booster swap and ABS delete next week.

                          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                            I should have done an ABS delete. Its on my list for next winter/next week, whichever is colder

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #552

                              ABS delete everything

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
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                                #553

                                unless your ABS is not functioning, why would you delete it?

                                Dan
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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  #554

                                  straight6pwr said:

                                  unless your ABS is not-functioning, why would you delete it?

                                  Less weight, more room, archaic BS, less points of failure & cool guy points

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                                  • m42b32M
                                    m42b32M
                                    m42b32
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                                    #555

                                    straight6pwr said:

                                    unless your ABS is not functioning, why would you delete it?

                                    It hasn't worked properly since before my friend bought the car nearly 10 years ago. When I re-did the suspension last winter I removed all the wheel speed sensors so it was effectively removed then, and it's the perfect time to remove everything else with the engine out. One of my goals is to simplify things where I can, and it makes bleeding the complete system easier as well.

                                    Non-ABS front brake lines: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=AF93-USA-04-1991-E30-BMW-318is&diagId=34_0150

                                    ABS front brake lines: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=AF93-USA-04-1991-E30-BMW-318is&diagId=34_0157

                                    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                      straight6pwr said:

                                      unless your ABS is not functioning, why would you delete it?

                                      Early on in my E30 ownership I had a malfunctioning ABS hydraulic unit which would run the pump and freeze my brake pedal upon first application after reaching 5mph or whatever the activation speed is. I resolved that but I have never really needed the ABS and would enjoy the 20lbs or so reduction forward of the axle and have more space for a boxed off intake heat shield

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                                      • straight6pwrS
                                        straight6pwrS
                                        straight6pwr
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                                        #557

                                        i think the benefits of ABS far outweigh 'i made my car 20lbs lighter' and 'its less stuff to break'

                                        besides, the e30 system is the most placated system i've ever run into. it barely wants to intervene, even in snowy/icy conditions. my e34 system likes to go off if i'm braking and go over a bump in the road...

                                        Dan
                                        yajsYRL.jpg.e5f350b4dfe961d76ac8b32efce2e1a6.jpg

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                                        • B
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                                          Oh trust me, I've been voting for Ralph Nader and voting to keep the ABS for as long as I can remember but after the war/stripping all the cam bearing studs and helicoiling them all I just haven't been the same.

                                          It changes a man. 

                                          but yes, your point about it not intervening much/at all is a good thing, but its also part of the reason im okay disposing of it. I didnt bump into ABS or wheel lock at Blackhawk on all seasons ("you obviously werent driving hard enough!")  I suspect as I try out autocross this year that some of the more abrupt corners may lock up the inside a bit. Not worried

                                          Famous final words before I live up to my name and snap understeer into a curb.

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