Lifted E30 V2
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This pump right here is the only one on the internet that I can find right now that would work.
I contacted him to see if he would be willing to flex on price or verify condition. -
^lol at me for thinking it would work.
I looked at my pump and I have ver. 118-1. wtf does that even mean? Googling the bottom number on the pump yields just about nothing, and the top number just confirms that it is indeed a fuel pump. The hunt continues.
I picked up the pump from the shop (as seen above) and was given a slight tour of it by the guy.
Cam plate - Pitted
Cam Followers - Pitted
Shafty thingy - Rusted
Pump housing - rusted
Gear thingy - rusted and pitted
Pump housing - rusted
I ran up to the shop because the injector nozzles finally got delivered, and they were just in time for me to bring them there!
Very shiny, much precise!
I didn't really accomplish anything on the car this weekend, other than determining what I need to order for material to make motor mounts.
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Yikes, so what are the downsides of just cleaning the pump as best you can and giviner? Is the pitting what was causing the external leak? The shop says it's hopeless?
They told me they wouldn't rebuild it, largely due to the fact that he said it would just cause larger issues down the road with the rust flaking off and getting stuck places.
There is a large O-ring that seals the back half (ish) of the pump and I'm willing to bet that's what gave out.Not worth installing $600 worth of injectors and plugging one up two weeks later after rust keeps coming off.
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Idk if you explained this already but why can't you just switch over to a different pump?
I have no clue if I can or not.
It's not worth $600 to buy a pump that may not work and then be stuck with a pump no one buys.I've got a message out to see if I can use that rebuilt one on ebay that I posted.
There is just about zero info out there about these fuel pumps lol. -
I have no clue if I can or not.
It's not worth $600 to buy a pump that may not work and then be stuck with a pump no one buys.I've got a message out to see if I can use that rebuilt one on ebay that I posted.
There is just about zero info out there about these fuel pumps lol.I would be interested in this too given how rare these pumps are. I'm not sure if it's useful since they are european pump specs but here is some detailed info about the various pumps on m21 d and td models.
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I would be interested in this too given how rare these pumps are. I'm not sure if it's useful since they are european pump specs but here is some detailed info about the various pumps on m21 d and td models.
Welcome and thanks for the awesome info! The only part of that chart I don't understand is why the early 324d has a VER 206 pump and the 524d has a VE pump, even though they both have the same 6047 identification number. Possibly an error? Anyways even though this doesn't have US specs to compare, Ben has a VER pump out of a euro 524d?
The main thing is the injectors and fuel pressure are the same for all of the mechanical pumps (E28 and early model e30's) so there shouldn't be any issues buying a used VE or VER pump as they are practically identical.
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Amusingly enough, those pump numbers don't line up with any that I have or have seen for sale. The number listed for the pump has a small unit on the side that I have yet to determine the function of, but it t's off the pressure relief valve on the low pressure side of the pump.
I went to the diesel shop last night to pick up my injectors!
They are quite beautiful!
They ended up costing a bit more than expected due to needing to clean all the rust out of them.
$850 dollars and I finally have some injectors to install!I called yesterday to compare pumps from what was on the motor to the one on ebay and the guy called back with info but I wasn't at my phone. I figured I was going to the shop anyway later so I would just talk to him then, but he had left for the day. So I will be finding out today if I found a fuel pump that will work. Fingers crossed!
That's about all for now folks!
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Boy oh boy does this feel good to say!
I ordered a fuel pump!
I called the local shop to ask about the part number difference and was told it is just an updated number, they are updated parts, and the testing specs are the same.
The new pump delivers 1cc fuel less than the old one in stock config, but when you're looking at 40cc injection there is a tiny percentage difference there.The new pump is already rebuilt and ready to go!
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How are you going to install the crush washers to the injectors?!
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How are you going to install the crush washers to the injectors?!
I managed to push one onto the injector last night in the kitchen, so now I just need to find something slightly larger than the injector to push it the rest of the way down.
Should be alright. -
New pump was $500, I offered less than he was asking and he accepted it. That'll show up on Wednesday.
Got the washers on all the injectors, used the workbench to get them started, then used a 12pt. 17mm socket to drive them the rest of the way down.
Old one vs. the new ones
I need to make some motor mounts before I want to torque things on the motor as it is still dangling from the support bar.
I ordered material yesterday from Speedy Metals and am hoping I can pick that up today. -
HAHAHa, that's awesome!
They did call and say it was ready for pickup, though they were much less enthusiastic than that video makes them out to be! -
Thanks to Speedy Metals I got some 1.5" x 2.5" x .188" wall rectangular tubing, which just so happened to be the perfect size for spacing my motor mounts back up after having lowered the subframe!
I set it in place, guessed a location for the motor mount stud, drilled a hole for that, installed it back in the chassis and marked for the lower hole. Put a bolt through the tubing then tightened both things up.
I did take them back out and paint them, but they look like someone just threw rectangular tubing in as a spacer.
With the motor back on its own feet I installed the new injectors.
The BMW manual said to torque them to ~30 ft lbs but that didn't seem like anywhere near enough. Consulted a VW friend who has a diesel with similar injection setup and their manual says 50 ft lbs, which is much more comfortable. So those are in.I also got to pick this beauty up yesterday!
I'm hoping to have enough time this Friday to get that installed and see if I cant get the motor running once again!
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hot sauce! can't wait to see it running.
have you worked on programming your ecu to lower your emissions?
Dan
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WOOT WOOT!! I cant wait to see this thing going again!
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Ben, why are your tools oily? Because I took sharp things to a perfectly good oil pan is why!
I needed a spot to plumb the crankcase separator back into the oil pan as it drains a fair bit of oil, and a 3/8 NPT fitting was the most convenient, so out came the tap and the 37/64th drill bit. Conveniently a friend had given me the tap and drill awhile ago, and had turned down the shank of the bit to fit in a standard drill chuck. The downside is that he made the bit impossibly sharp to the point where it is difficult to drill aluminum because it catches so much.
Success!
I had to do this with the fuel pump out, otherwise I would not have been able to get a drill down there.Put a new timing belt tensioner / idler in and also placed the fuel pump in its designated location.
Injectors in, pump in, pan drilled. Next step is to time the fuel pump then bleed the air out of the system.
Hopefully rolling some coal this weekend!
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