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the one and only e30 s52 engine swap

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  • AsparagusMikeA
    AsparagusMikeA
    AsparagusMike
    wrote on last edited by
    #189

    Click to choose files Received the tank last night. Overall seems like it is pretty well made. It is made of ni-terne steel (which is pretty much a steel with a plated coating over the top of it to protect it from rust and corrosion, the coating is made of 92% lead 8% tin), I think that's pretty much what all new gas tanks are being made of now. I did notice right away that one of the tabs had bent over, probably from shipping would be my guess. Not to worried about it though as throwing it in a vise and straightening it out would be much easier then having to go through the hassle of sending it back and then get another one sent over. My plan is to paint the tank in por-15 to make it fit in better underneath the car as well as giving it a even better rust protection. As the surface is very smooth, most of the time I would scuff it up with some sand paper or scotch-brite before painting but I think that would be unwise being that it would release the lead content into the air which of course would mean me breathing it and probably dying. Right now I'm gonna try cleaning the tank down with some lacquer thinner and then apply the por-15 on the top side to see how it adheres. I did read somewhere that paint and lead adheres together pretty well so we will see. how that goes.

    Few pics of it out of the box...

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    Things happening in the next week:

    Got stainless lines ordered from CSS as well as a bunch of little misc. stuff from fcp. Hoping to see everything next week so I can get the lines installed, then the tank and maybe start on getting the rear axle assembly back in. This means the main goal is finishing up the under body this weekend hopefully.

    Stay tuned!

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    • stealthbimmerS
      stealthbimmerS
      stealthbimmer
      wrote on last edited by
      #190

      Contact amazon and send em the damaged pic. They will likely give you some money back. I had a window a.c. come with a big dent in it. Damage didn't affect the function so I was ok with it, they refunded me like $60 if I remember correctly.

      Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk

      1997 328ic

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      • P_RoloffP
        P_RoloffP
        P_Roloff
        wrote on last edited by
        #191

        You could always pick up a lead specific respirator too, that'd probably work if all you're doing is scuffing it up a little. Do it outside so that it doesn't get thrown into the air in the shop/settle on anything and you'll be good.

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
          wrote on last edited by
          #192

          Do you have a link for that tank?

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          • AsparagusMikeA
            AsparagusMikeA
            AsparagusMike
            wrote on last edited by
            #193

            stealthbimmer said:

            Contact amazon and send em the damaged pic. They will likely give you some money back. I had a window a.c. come with a big dent in it. Damage didn't affect the function so I was ok with it, they refunded me like $60 if I remember correctly.

            Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk
             

            Just sent out an email to them, we'll see what happens. Thanks for the info!

            P_Roloff said:

            You could always pick up a lead specific respirator too, that'd probably work if all you're doing is scuffing it up a little. Do it outside so that it doesn't get thrown into the air in the shop/settle on anything and you'll be good.

            Gonna look into that. I like the idea of having a ruff surface so that's there an edge for the paint to grab to.

            KaiserRolls said:

            Do you have a link for that tank?

            https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C7RZ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews

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            • JdesignJ
              JdesignJ
              Jdesign
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              #194

              I can tell you from experience you will have a hard time getting por-15 to adhere to a painted or semi smooth surface EVEN after you scuff it. I made the "por" decision to scuff an entire engine bay and used por-15 to paint it and it all flaked off in a few short months. I could have done a "por" job of prepping the surface, as I was inexperienced at the time, but I just want to give you a heads up. It did work great on my rusty truck frame though!

              From a Hotrodding site:

              "best applied to minor surface rust to get bite. When you completely take out the rust it doesn't seem to adhere as well and it comes off in sheets or flakes." -tech69

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              • KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRolls
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                #195

                Paint
                Over
                Rust

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                • stealthbimmerS
                  stealthbimmerS
                  stealthbimmer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #196

                  I would use truck bed liner if you want it black. Probably the only thing that will hold up all the road debris that gas tanks get exposed to.

                  1997 328ic

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                  • m42b32M
                    m42b32M
                    m42b32
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #197

                    Thanks for the link on the tank! I'll need one whenever I start working on my sedan since it doesn't have one. Keep us posted with what you end up doing for that connecting pipe at the bottom.

                    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #198

                      The tank I bought from Advanced Auto either had that crossover pipe already installed, or somehow didn't have one (doubtful) 
                      I'll see if I can find pictures. It was sub $200 to get it to my door.

                      ...

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                      • AsparagusMikeA
                        AsparagusMikeA
                        AsparagusMike
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                        #199

                        Does anyone have any experience with the UUC sway barbarian sway bars or the IE sway bars? What's the reason for the even larger 25mm front 22mm rear IE sway bar kit? Just trying to rap my head around it all and what would be the best route to go for my intentions with the car.

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                        • m42b32M
                          m42b32M
                          m42b32
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                          I have a UUC 19mm rear sway bar, it doesn't fit very well. I had to modify multiple brackets, and the sway bar itself rubs the underside of the trunk floor above the diff. After all that, the rear end links are too long to actually use the softer adjustment holes so now I have to make new ones that are shorter. If I were to do it again, I'd probably get the Turner reinforcements and an ST 19mm rear bar.

                          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                          • B
                            B
                            B C
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #201

                            I have the ST 19mm rear bar. ANY rear sway bar install is going to be a pain in the dick but I dont have any issues with mine. The handling balance is right where I want it to be.

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #202

                              I have the turner reinforcements and ST bars & adjustable endlinks. 22F/19R

                              No complaints about install besides the typical lack of room

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                              • AsparagusMikeA
                                AsparagusMikeA
                                AsparagusMike
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #203

                                KaiserRolls said:

                                I have the turner reinforcements and ST bars & adjustable endlinks. 22F/19R

                                No complaints about install besides the typical lack of room

                                So it seems the st sway bars came with rear adjustable links but not front ones. Where did you resort to for the front ones?

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                                • KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRollsK
                                  KaiserRolls
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                                  AsparagusMike said:

                                  So it seems the st sway bars came with rear adjustable links but not front ones. Where did you resort to for the front ones?

                                  https://www.akgmotorsport.com/product/adjustable-front-swaybar-stabilizer-link-set-e30-e36-z3-non-m-m3/

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                                  • B
                                    B
                                    Boris3
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                                    stealthbimmer said:

                                    These guys work wonders for rounded bolts. If you dont have a set, you are welcome to borrow mine. 

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                                    Just wanted to add my thanks for pointing out that these kits exist. Went out and bought one the same day, and it was the answer for a half-destroyed rusted O2 sensor nut on the truck this evening.

                                    1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                                    • AsparagusMikeA
                                      AsparagusMikeA
                                      AsparagusMike
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #206

                                      stealthbimmer said:

                                      Contact amazon and send em the damaged pic. They will likely give you some money back. I had a window a.c. come with a big dent in it. Damage didn't affect the function so I was ok with it, they refunded me like $60 if I remember correctly.

                                      Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk
                                       

                                      I'm gonna start out by thanking you for this info. I contacted amazon and they did end up refunding me 36 dollars back for the damage to the gas tank with no hassle at all. I threw the bent tab on tank in a vice and bent her straight with no issues.

                                      Last Thursday night I finished up the under-body grinding down any rust, prepping it with por-15 metal prep, and then painting 2 coats of por-15 on it.

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                                      After letting it dry for a good 24 hours I started getting the under-body prepped for undercoat. Little did I know that all the black areas on the floor pans and pretty much everywhere in the rear end was actually 20 year old caked on dirt. I scrubbed for a few hours with heavy degreaser trying to get the shit off but there was little success. Only thing I found to take it off decently was lacquer thinner and even then it wasn't doing a whole lot better. The only thing that was gonna do the job effectively was a pressure washer. Luckily, Friday was a fairly nice day and it was in the middle 40's so I went to the store, bought two 1000 lb rated 4 wheel dolly's, stacked some wood on top of them to reach the height of the car and rolled her outside.

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                                      I knew the shell couldn't have been more then maybe 1200 pounds max so I wasn't worried about them braking even if they are cheap ones. My original plan was to just lay on the ground while pressure washing but trying to fit the gun underneath while trying to hit all the areas wasn't working out quite well, the car was gonna have to go higher.

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                                      I knew the forks would be to short so I dug around and found some old 2 by 10 thick ash type wood that is used for making headers above doors. Threw them on there, c clamped em down and threw a ratchet strap over it for extra per-caution. As you can see I didn't have the forks in the exact middle so the rear end was a tad heavier then the front causing it to slightly wobble, that's why the extra boards are there supporting the back, lol.

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                                      There was some spots where the pressure washer still couldn't remove (which I had turned up all the way which is just about 3500 psi of pressure) so I said screw it, If it ain't comin off with that it ain't comin off when the undercoat is on.

                                      After rolling the shell back in the shop I  took a thorough look over the underneath of the car to check for any more rust that had been covered up by the dirt.

                                      After taking a good look at the inside of the front fender I noticed some rust coming through. Grabbed the die grinder and started wire wheeling away the undercoat which just ended up coming off in large pieces to reveal some more uplifting surprises.

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                                      I'm gonna try to start cutting away all the rusted out areas tonight and then hopefully get to welding in new metal either tomorrow or Friday.

                                      As you can see, the driver side rust pretty much ate right through.

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                                      I did end up taking off the fenders as well as they were in rough shape towards the bottom in the same area of course.

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                                      Although they are in rough shape I'm gonna see what they look like after a good wire wheeling. I really don't want to have to find another set of fenders for this car.

                                      I did look lover the rest of the car and everything else seems to be solid and good shape. Hopefully if I can get these areas fixed up I will be shooting for Saturday to undercoat the car. Gonna just leave the fenders off until the undercoating is finished, then reinstall them.

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRolls
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                                        I’m enjoying the amount of hatred for rust in this thread

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                                        • straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwr
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                                          KaiserRolls said:

                                          I’m enjoying the amount of hatred for rust in this thread

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                                          "fixing me is like a flat circle"

                                          Dan
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