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the one and only e30 s52 engine swap

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    #161

    The master cylinders and calipers are paired together. You can mix and match, but your mechanical advantage may not be what its supposed to be. There is no reason to switch to the ATE and brass slide bushings in my opinion. this is a good resource if you havent already come across it

    http://www.massivebrakes.com/

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
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      If you go with brass, keep up with cleaning them so they don’t bind.

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      • P_RoloffP
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        P_Roloff
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        #163

        Can’t comment on the ATE calipers, but I bought rebuilt rear girling calipers from centric last year after snapping a bleed screw and I have nothing bad to say about them, they seem to be pretty good value for the money. If you care about how they look, make sure to get paint on them ASAP, they start to get surface rust pretty quickly.

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          Boris3
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          #164

          Snap said:

          The master cylinders and calipers are paired together. You can mix and match, but your mechanical advantage may not be what its supposed to be. There is no reason to switch to the ATE and brass slide bushings in my opinion. this is a good resource if you havent already come across it

          http://www.massivebrakes.com/

          There was a buzz for a while in the E30 racing community about switching from the Girling fronts to the ATE fronts with the brass bushings but this is low on the mod scale say compared to brake ducting kits. The advantage was supposedly better braking due to even pad wear throughout the life of the pad rather than the tapering which can happen with the Girling's rubber bushings in heavy track use.  Not really worth the cost or the additional maintenance like KaiserRolls noted. Like Snap said put your money elsewhere. Good indication of current interest is that there's a guy on R3V that's been trying to sell the ATE caliper/bushing combo for over a year with multiple price drops and no takers. 

          Rebuild kits for calipers are cheap and the rebuild process is not hard if all the metal bits are in good shape, no stuck broken bleeders etc. Like P_Roloff I've also had good luck with remanufactured Centric rear calipers.  I got my rebuilt rear ATEs from ECS Tuning.

          1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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          • AsparagusMikeA
            AsparagusMikeA
            AsparagusMike
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            #165

            Chassis pieces finished... finally

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            The fact I had to paint one side at a time on each piece was probably the biggest time killer, as well as the fact that I put three coats on each side. I'm really happy how it turned out though, originally the plan was to get them powder coated but the cost wasn't worth it IMO and after looking at how well por-15 turned out on other people's vehicles and the fact that it prevents the pieces from anymore rust, I had to give it a try.

            Painted the rear dust shields and push rods in por-15 while I was at it...

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            Got around to putting in the new bearings tonight as well as the dust shields.

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            Probably put the hubs in on Wednesday, forgot got to blast the small brackets for the e brake cables at the same time as the calipers and its much easier installing them before the hubs are on. Gonna try to get around to doing that tomorrow and then throw a bit of por-15 on em to keep them in good shape. Spent a little time tonight cleaning up the hubs...

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            Finished up repairing the last few rust holes on the passenger side floor panel/drive line tunnel. The two circle holes were locations where there were stud screws originally, It had gotten to the point where there were all these small little holes around them from the rust eating through so the only real fix was to cut it out and weld in new. Still gotta spend some time smoothing everything out better before paint.

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            While letting the subframes dry I killed some time by pulling apart the flex disc from the swivel joint. Rivets were kind of a pain in the ass as they took a little force to punch out after cutting the top off. Once removed spent a little time cleaning up the corrosion and making it shiny with a Roloc disc and some brake clean. Thinking I might go with the poly flex disc from IE. The price is cheaper then the oem rubber one and it comes with all the hardware needed for installation.

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            Rear calipers are dissembled and blasted. Will be putting the new seals in tomorrow.

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            So went back to messing with the car and noticed that I will be unable to reuse the floor pan plug. After doing a little research it doesn't seem those are replaceable so It looks like the only fix is to weld the hole shut.

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            Will have to wire wheel the por-15 I just put on it back off now...<<

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            Besides that everything seems to be coming along alright. Haven't started on the gas tank at all yet. Got all excited cause I saw a new e30 gas tank for sale near me on Facebook. The dude originally payed over 300 for it and only wanted 90 bucks, immediately sent him a message for availability and sure enough, he sold it. On another note, look at the beautiful flocked dash!

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            • EarlE
              EarlE
              Earl
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              #166

              I think a coat of black paint before flocking may have helped eliminate that but otherwise it looks nice 👍 Good progress on everything

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              • B
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                B C
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                #167

                You do nice work

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                • JdesignJ
                  JdesignJ
                  Jdesign
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                  #168

                  POR15.  I haven't used that stuff in a long time but its awesome. Looking good man!

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                  • YoungCRY
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                    YoungCR
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                    #169

                    Great work!

                    Chris Young
                    BMWCCA #458972
                    1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #170

                      Jdesign said:

                      POR15.  I haven't used that stuff in a long time but its awesome. Looking good man!

                      It’s awesome

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #171

                        Jdesign said:

                        PEN15.  I haven't used that stuff in a long time but its awesome.

                        Fixed that for ya

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                        • Bassboy3313B
                          Bassboy3313B
                          Bassboy3313
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                          #172

                          KBS FTW!!!!!!!

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                          • AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMikeA
                            AsparagusMike
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                            #173

                            Earl said:

                            I think a coat of black paint before flocking may have helped eliminate that but otherwise it looks nice 👍 Good progress on everything

                            I suppose but its a little late for that now and honestly I think it looks like shit. So I'm down to three options now, get another kit and redo the dash (try Earl's paint first method), try something different like a vinyl wrap, or forget about it all and just go find a crack free dash and pay out the ass (which could also take sometime to source). Right now the plan is giving "just flock it" a call Friday to figure things out. According to their website they state and I quote, "Flock IT! ensures a quick turnaround of orders, quality products, and 100% satisfaction."

                            As for further progress on other tings. Tuesday got the calipers reassembled with all new oem seals as well as getting the e-brake brackets blasted and painted...

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                            Was able to make it over to the shop later today and get the painted brackets installed and the hubs pressed in. Once that was completed I started on pressing in the subframe bushings. Took time to make sure there was plenty of lube on them so that they function quietly, I know it only lasts for maybe a year before they become dry and start squeaking but I read somewhere that sil-glyde (which I use a lot on caliper guide pins and works awesome!) seems to keep them quiet the longest, so that's what I used.

                            Here's my sloppy mess...

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                            Used a c-clamp with a socket on the end to press them in

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                            And for the trailing arms

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                            Voilà..

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                            Had to do a little modifying of the subframe bushings in order to clear the eccentric hardware nuts and so that a wrench can fit up in there to loosen and adjust during alignment.

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                            Up next... fuel lines, brake lines, gas tank.

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                            • stealthbimmerS
                              stealthbimmerS
                              stealthbimmer
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                              #174

                              AsparagusMike said:

                               go find a crack free dash and pay out the ass (which could also take sometime to source)

                              There is a  crack free one for sale on FB up in Minocqua.

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                              https://www.facebook.com/groups/183905868629577/permalink/565800997106727/?sale_post_id=565800997106727

                              1997 328ic

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                              • AsparagusMikeA
                                AsparagusMikeA
                                AsparagusMike
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                                #175

                                Ugh... that looks like a good one too. The only problem is the fact that it's in woodruff and the only time I could make a drive like that would be next weekend Saturday, doubt it'll still be available by then.

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                                • JdesignJ
                                  JdesignJ
                                  Jdesign
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                                  Ask him if you can paypal him to hold it or meet you closer.

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    #177

                                    Yeah no kidding, woodruff is quite far away! 
                                    Sucks that the white shows through the flocking. Looks nice other than that!

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                                    • AsparagusMikeA
                                      AsparagusMikeA
                                      AsparagusMike
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                                      #178

                                      So just got off the phone with "just flock it". According to the lady I talked to its not uncommon for people to flock their dash twice in order to cover everything completely. They said to simply paint right over what i have on there. I do have enough paint glue from them to cover the dash again but not enough fibers, I would have to order more fibers which will run me another 42 dollars. I should also add that she can't confirm this will work to solve the bondo seeing through issue, its just what other people swear by doing. So now I'm down to two choices... Possibly keep digging myself a grave flocking the dash again not knowing if its gonna work or see if I can get my hands on this crack free one in wood ruff.

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                                        B C
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                                        Crack free dash will just crack a month after install

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                                        • YoungCRY
                                          YoungCRY
                                          YoungCR
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                                          agreed, crack free original dashes are a scam. The problem is it will still crack because it's the same materials. I had a dash crack on a e30 while in heated storage! I'd spend another $42 to either repaint and reflock, or add to your existing work. To have a properly OEM refinished dash from justdashes.com is around $1200.

                                          Chris Young
                                          BMWCCA #458972
                                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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