chit chat thread

Jdesign

KaiserRolls said:

Dodge caravan dropped on a ram chassis

Cheater.

Jdesign

patsbimmer1 said:

This dick bag decided to waste my time today by negotiating a price and setting up a time to meet then ghosting.

414-306-5756

Give us some details to work with..

patsbimmer1

They texted me this morning about my Ford Escape for sale and asked my lowest price. Then told me they had $1000 to spend. I agreed and we were supposed to meet at a Piggly Wiggly by my house at 11am this morning.

Jdesign said:

Give us some details to work with..

KaiserRolls

Jdesign said:

Cheater.

Look at the time stamp homie. Guessed before you spilled the beans

HipMF

patsbimmer1 said:

They texted me this morning about my Ford Escape for sale and asked my lowest price. Then told me they had $1000 to spend. I agreed and we were supposed to meet at a Piggly Wiggly by my house at 11am this morning.

Sooo... pretty much like 50% of all craigslist buyers? I can understand if you're upset, but not if you're surprised...

patsbimmer1

HipMF said:

Sooo... pretty much like 50% of all craigslist buyers? I can understand if you're upset, but not if you're surprised...

Not surprised, it's happened before. I'm just disappointed in humanity. I hope this person gets hit by a snow plow.

Rekpoint

patsbimmer1 said:

Not surprised, it's happened before. I'm just disappointed in humanity. I hope this person gets hit by a snow plow.

Think of the bright side. At least you didn't meet him half way and he turned into a no-show

Jdesign

Thats why I never agree to meet someone far from home if I am a seller.

And if they want to meet half way, suddenly im coming from Canada so I dont have to drive as far as them when they dont show up.

Honestly if he stopped responding and you are that pissed, what you do is make a fake Craigslist ad with his number. List a Ford Escape in great condition, for sale at a a good deal and make sure the ad DOESNT look fake. If it gets flagged keep reposting. While he is getting calls every 5 mins from your ad, ask him if he is still interested in your vehicle repeatedly. He will respond sooner or later, but it my just be him crying for you to make it stop.

**(bonus- make more fake ads for a quick response)**

Boris3

patsbimmer1 said:

and asked my lowest price. Then told me they had $1000 to spend. I agreed

This is a tough one. Folks have been watching too many car shows where an asking price means little, there is an immediate jump to "what's the lowest you'll take", and then that becomes the starting point to push the price down further with more emails or texts. All of this takes place before the buyer shows up. I usually list a price obo but do no further negotiation unless the buyer shows up in person....and ignore the rants in the meantime.

patsbimmer1 said:

Not surprised, it's happened before. I'm just disappointed in humanity. I hope this person gets hit by a snow plow.

The WI Bimmer group and enthusiasts in general spoil us since we have the sense that we're dealing with folks who care about the model /brand /activity and by extension are likely to be reasonable and honest people to deal with. Of course this doesn't help when we're trying to sell a nonenthusiast item to a broader market.

No shows are a pain and I'm sorry to hear you got stuck. On the plus side, your ride didn't get stolen and you didn't get shot. Too many instances these days of a buyer showing up with a "friend" who drove him there and the buyer gets in in your ride and both take off. The getting shot can happen in a variation of the above or when you show up to purchase. A student of mine had a family member killed and ripped off in MI last year when he showed up to sell a car. So we follow the advice to meet in a neutral location or meet at a police station's "Safe Exchange Zone" but still stupid things happen there as well.

No answers, disappointed as well, and agree on the snowplow. A friend of mine was snagged by a passing plow truck blade when getting into his parked car. Smacked him pretty good. Lucky he was a big guy or he would of been done for.

m42b32

Looked up something on google maps, got side tracked and started wandering around in the satellite images.... I am on google maps installing lowering springs on my e30 in my parent's driveway sometime in summer of 2015. You can even see that the hood was open!

And here is a pic from that same day, car is in the exact same spot (Later in the day so the sun was setting) with the old GMC behind it

Weird to know I was being photographed from space during that haha

B C

Boris3 said:

This is a tough one. Folks have been watching too many car shows where an asking price means little, there is an immediate jump to "what's the lowest you'll take", and then that becomes the starting point to push the price down further with more emails or texts. All of this takes place before the buyer shows up. I usually list a price obo but do no further negotiation unless the buyer shows up in person....and ignore the rants in the meantime.

The WI Bimmer group and enthusiasts in general spoil us since we have the sense that we're dealing with folks who care about the model /brand /activity and by extension are likely to be reasonable and honest people to deal with. Of course this doesn't help when we're trying to sell a nonenthusiast item to a broader market.

No shows are a pain and I'm sorry to hear you got stuck. On the plus side, your ride didn't get stolen and you didn't get shot. Too many instances these days of a buyer showing up with a "friend" who drove him there and the buyer gets in in your ride and both take off. The getting shot can happen in a variation of the above or when you show up to purchase. A student of mine had a family member killed and ripped off in MI last year when he showed up to sell a car. So we follow the advice to meet in a neutral location or meet at a police station's "Safe Exchange Zone" but still stupid things happen there as well.

No answers, disappointed as well, and agree on the snowplow. A friend of mine was snagged by a passing plow truck blade when getting into his parked car. Smacked him pretty good. Lucky he was a big guy or he would of been done for.

A reminder that I will just throw away anything that I would have normally sold on Craigslist..

Crappy stories all around. There was another guy on here that lived down the road here in New Berlin with an E36 got swiped during a showing. When it came time to let the potential buyer test drive it and they switched seats, the second guy hopped in the drivers seat while the owner was walking around the car to the passenger seat. They were Chicago people.

patsbimmer1

Boris3 said:

This is a tough one. Folks have been watching too many car shows where an asking price means little, there is an immediate jump to "what's the lowest you'll take", and then that becomes the starting point to push the price down further with more emails or texts. All of this takes place before the buyer shows up. I usually list a price obo but do no further negotiation unless the buyer shows up in person....and ignore the rants in the meantime.

The WI Bimmer group and enthusiasts in general spoil us since we have the sense that we're dealing with folks who care about the model /brand /activity and by extension are likely to be reasonable and honest people to deal with. Of course this doesn't help when we're trying to sell a nonenthusiast item to a broader market.

No shows are a pain and I'm sorry to hear you got stuck. On the plus side, your ride didn't get stolen and you didn't get shot. Too many instances these days of a buyer showing up with a "friend" who drove him there and the buyer gets in in your ride and both take off. The getting shot can happen in a variation of the above or when you show up to purchase. A student of mine had a family member killed and ripped off in MI last year when he showed up to sell a car. So we follow the advice to meet in a neutral location or meet at a police station's "Safe Exchange Zone" but still stupid things happen there as well.

No answers, disappointed as well, and agree on the snowplow. A friend of mine was snagged by a passing plow truck blade when getting into his parked car. Smacked him pretty good. Lucky he was a big guy or he would of been done for.

I hate negotiating before seeing the vehicle but i've already set a price assuming the shitfucks i'll be dealing with are going try this but yea, it's annoying and I want this gone so i'm willing to lower my standards.

As far as safety, this is why a) i have someone nearby watching to document events and make sure im not robbed, shot or raped I carry a gun and c) I RARELY meet people at my house and this location in particular is very visible and across the street and within very obvious view of the police department.

Thank you for the empathy.

KaiserRolls

People suck
Carry guns

suspenceful

E36 ti with S70 swap...

https://www.bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?87316-Here-s-an-E36-hatchback-with-a-5-6-liter-S70B56-V12-swap

Earl

Racing Dynamics made that exact car with a aero package back in the day=)

racingdynamicsk55compact02800600.j

Jdesign

Boris3 said:

I usually list a price obo but do no further negotiation unless the buyer shows up in person....and ignore the rants in the meantime.

THIS.

Also I try and meet somewhere I know there are cameras and people.

I went and looked at a car with a friend this past week and the sellers responses were almost non-exsistant and the address was in the middle of the north side of Milwaukee. When I looked it up while we were on our way, I quickly made sure the seller would meet us in a public parking lot with cameras. Turns out the Seller was Hispanic and couldn't speak much English. His girlfriend came along as a translator and cleared it up that he couldn't read what we were saying thus no response.

Every situation is different, but I am always more cautious now since I have been robbed on craigslist via gunpoint a few years ago.

B C

whoa

Rekpoint

Jdesign said:

THIS.
Also I try and meet somewhere I know there are cameras and people.
I went and looked at a car with a friend this past week and the sellers responses were almost non-exsistant and the address was in the middle of the north side of Milwaukee. When I looked it up while we were on our way, I quickly made sure the seller would meet us in a public parking lot with cameras. Turns out the Seller was Hispanic and couldn't speak much English. His girlfriend came along as a translator and cleared it up that he couldn't read what we were saying thus no response.
Every situation is different, but I am always more cautious now since I have been robbed on craigslist via gunpoint a few years ago.

Can we have the juicy details of the gunpoint story?

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B C

I watched the Netflix "Dirty Money" documentary about VW Dieselgate. I recommend giving it a watch. Very well done and auto industry stuff is always interesting.

Jdesign

Rekpoint said:

Can we have the juicy details of the gunpoint story?

Yup.

I want to believe it was more of wrong place at the wrong time type of deal but I dont know. I was selling a Nintendo Wii on craigslist for $30. YES $30!!!!!

I had a lady interested and she claimed it was for her son and she didn't have a car. Fed me a lot of text messages, I spoke with her on the phone, and she seemed very nice. So I agreed to deliver it to her seeing that it was only 10-15mins from my place in Milwaukee at the time. When I got there, it was an older house and she told me that her unit was in the back of the house and there was another tenant in the front. So I drove around back and waited. Less than a min later I hear a metallic tap on the drivers door glass. I look over and there is a 22mm handgun right in my face connected to the hand of an African American fellow. I roll down my window and he asks for my wallet. I looked at him and literally laughed. I told him I dont have any money, and that was the whole reason I was where I was. Waiting for this lady to come buy the Wii so I could make some money. He looked at me dumbfounded and wasn't really sure what to do. Then asked to see the bag that I had the Wii in. I hand it to him, he looks in it, has a disappointed look on his face, and starts walking away. I pondered for a minute about tossing the car in reverse and driving over him, but I decided against it.

Good thing I did, because just as he walked about a car lengths behind my car 4 or 5 other African American males emerged from bushes, a garage, and the other side of a wall. Most of which also had shiny metallic objects in their hands. I assume that they were waiting for someone else, as you do not need that many people to rob someone for a $30 video game system. As they walked in the other direction, I managed to realize what just happened and started to drive away. As I played it through my head again and again, I got a suddenly burst of rage and went around the block planning to mow them down if they were on the sidewalk.

They were gone. I called the cops( mind you the police station was 2 blocks from where I was) and they wanted me to wait there. I wasn't waiting around in my car in that area again.. I drove home and spoke with the lady on the phone and she was really upset, I felt like she may have had something to do with it at that point but I didn't even care anymore. In the end I went home Wii-less without a sale, the cops never found them, and I have this really stupid learning experience and excuse to ALWAYS BE MINDFUL when dealing transactions with people you dont know.

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