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    Daggerty
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    I have a few m50 tbs

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      Daggerty
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      I also have a m52 tb on my m50 manifold with no plate and boosted, with no leaks.

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        I had a busy day outside of the garage but i was able to finish up the last items that I needed to do before putting the intake manifold on. This mostly consisted of getting all the power steering limes situated. The adapter i bought for the pump worked out, i had to shorten both low pressure lines for the new PS reservoir location.

        The low pressure line that connects to the rack was not going to allow the hose to connect to the reservoir. I pulled this banjo fitting (left) off the spare e36 pump i had and am using it instead of the E30 line (right). It works much better and im happy with my hydraulic line situation, although i dont want to touch them ever again. Hate those things.

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        The manifold is torqued down. I just have to connect the icv hose, evap hose, intake/maf, and coilpack ground straps and i will be ready to fire it up. I am at a christmas party now so i will have to finish it up tomorrow around 4p

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        • EarlE
          EarlE
          Earl
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          #302

          I cannot believe I see 24 valves in that car...

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          • KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRolls
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            #303

            Earl said:

            I cannot believe I see 24 valves in that car...

            It’s been a long road to recovery, but we’ve finally worn him out

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              It started, its running.... poorly.

              The positive: everything is connected properly, no leaks or strange noises that I can tell, lifters are much quieter than expected.

              The negative: cylinders 2 and 4 seem to be dead.

              Cylinders 2 and 4 have spark so I pulled out the compression tester 🤭 (horrible idea, I know) but to my relief they were both 190 psi. I removed and replaced the injector harness to ensure everything was clipped in correctly and ran it again with no improvement.

              Possible issues:

              -injectors are bad (they were cleaned and tested, but who knows)

              -injector wiring harness is bad

              -injector drivers (ECU) are bad

              Overall, for all the screwing around involved with the engine swap, cam swap/timing, and obd1 conversion, im happy to at least see that it fires up and runs.

              The next time I work on the car I will swap injectors around and see if the problem follows the injectors as well as checking continuity with the injector harness and ecu pins

              I will win this

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              • JeffJ
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                Jeff
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                Snap said:

                It started, its running.... poorly.

                [emoji29]

                Too many valves????

                1976 530i e12
                1990 325ix e30
                1992 325i e36
                1995 740il e38
                2001 330xi e46
                ^More to come :)

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                  #306

                  ROFL

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                    Daggerty
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                    #307

                    If you need a noid light tester let me know I'm off the next three days.

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
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                      You could use a screwdriver or stethoscope to see if those injectors are clicking like the others while running.

                      Another thought is bad spark plug boots causing the spark to be shorted out when actually installed.  I assume you had the coil pack pulled out and laid on top to test?

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        #309

                        jc43089 said:

                        You could use a screwdriver or stethoscope to see if those injectors are clicking like the others while running.  

                        I tried a screwdriver and also a piece of hose and I wasn't able to really hear any real contrast. 

                        Daggerty said:

                        If you need a noid light tester let me know I'm off the next three days.

                        I'm a bit in the doghouse for wrenching so much this weekend (ha!), Is this a tool you'd be willing to let me borrow for a week while i find the right opportunity to get back into the garage?

                        I also wonder how much the mixture and old gas has to do with things. I dont have the O2 sensor connected because the exhaust isnt finished and the fuel in the tank is probably a year and a half old.

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                        • jc43089J
                          jc43089J
                          jc43089
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                          Bad gas could be a significant problem.  Especially if it was not ethanol free.  I would disconnect a feed line and jumper the pump relay to pump it out into a jug.  Then hook the line back up and put fresh gas in and then run the pump with the jumper again for a minute to circulate it.  Then run it again.

                          o2 sensor isn't a problem for a cold start.

                          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
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                            #311

                            I personally have never had issues with old gas, but I wouldn't rule it out. 

                            Is your ground coming out of the injector harness "box" good?
                            Easy enough to crack that case open and check the wiring at the injectors. 
                            Double check to make sure the plugs are all seated on the injectors, sometimes those can be a bit finicky. 

                            What spark plugs are you using? 

                            Glad it's running! I also like your throttle cable! 😄

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                              GunMetalGrey said:

                              I personally have never had issues with old gas, but I wouldn't rule it out. 

                              Is your ground coming out of the injector harness "box" good?
                              Easy enough to crack that case open and check the wiring at the injectors. 
                              Double check to make sure the plugs are all seated on the injectors, sometimes those can be a bit finicky. 

                              What spark plugs are you using? 

                              Glad it's running! I also like your throttle cable! :)

                              Thanks,  and yes, I havent bothered to figure out how the throttle cable attaches quite yet. At the moment it would appear to be too long but its an E34 cable and its supposed to work.

                              I did re-clip the injectors in because those clips are abominable, no improvement unfortunately, but yes, thanks for the idea of popping the cover off, should make electrical testing a bit faster and easier

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                                jc43089 said:

                                Bad gas could be a significant problem.  Especially if it was not ethanol free.  I would disconnect a feed line and jumper the pump relay to pump it out into a jug.  Then hook the line back up and put fresh gas in and then run the pump with the jumper again for a minute to circulate it.  Then run it again.

                                o2 sensor isn't a problem for a cold start.

                                The only deal with the O2 is that I have a custom tune and it hasnt established any fuel trims, but otherwise yes you are right, it isnt a contributor otherwise

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                                • jc43089J
                                  jc43089J
                                  jc43089
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                                  #314

                                  I'm not sure what the learning procedure is for OBD2, for OBD1 I believe it runs on preset tables for cold start always, but I am not sure if it learns and adjusts after "seeing" the engine run at temperature.  You are probably right that with OBD2 it adjusts startup parameters based on warmed up characteristics.

                                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    Snap said:

                                    Thanks,  and yes, I havent bothered to figure out how the throttle cable attaches quite yet. At the moment it would appear to be too long but its an E34 cable and its supposed to work.

                                    Ahh, you have an M52 Throttle body. 
                                    I have no idea how to do that, or if it works with that cable. The e34 cable is a direct plug and play with the OBD1 throttle bodies. 
                                    From looking at the throttle body it looks like some modifications will need to happen to the cable.

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                                    • JdesignJ
                                      JdesignJ
                                      Jdesign
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                                      YAS!!! 

                                      Coilpacks bad? I would try swapping those suckers around first. Did you ohm them out at all?

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                                        Coil packs are brand new BMW/bremi units, switched them around, checked for spark, they are good

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                                          Daggerty
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                                          Yes you can borrow it, you know how too find me.

                                          Mb your engine has too much compression.

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