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M5X/S5X Reliability Upgrades

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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1
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    #2

    Does this swap use the m20 radiator or does it need an m5x radiator?

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
    95 325is *sold*
    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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    • B
      B
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      #3

      Im using my aluminum ECS M20 radiator. I have read that I can use an M20 radiator but will have to see for myself

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      • patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1
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        #4

        Are you already planning on deleting the mechanical fan?  If not I'd say that's up there on preventive maintenance.

        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
        95 325is *sold*
        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

        BMWCCA #473306

        Instagram @patsbimmer1

        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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        • B
          B
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          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          I like the cooling performance of the mechanical fans but Im always a fan of more space in the engine bay so I will do a big electric pusher

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          • JeffJ
            JeffJ
            Jeff
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            #6

            I loved my first 2 mechanical fans. They worked great up until they exploded. After number 2 went I decided I was going to put a thermal relay in and a slim fan.

            1976 530i e12
            1990 325ix e30
            1992 325i e36
            1995 740il e38
            2001 330xi e46
            ^More to come :)

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
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              #7

              Snap said:

              Im using my aluminum ECS M20 radiator. I have read that I can use an M20 radiator but will have to see for myself

              It will work just fine

              Snap said:

              I like the cooling performance of the mechanical fans but Im always a fan of more space in the engine bay so I will do a big electric pusher

              They sometimes fit, but if you touch the brakes you will put the fan into the radiator, so stay safe and run a pusher in front. 

              As you mentioned the hydraulic chain tensioner isn't a bad way to go. 
              Replacing the chain guides is worthwhile because they aren't too expensive and I have seen a few broken ones in my day. 
              If you feel like it you could throw a new o ring set at vanos. 

              It's not always about "upgrading" things like the intake boot but more about replacing old ones and by being new you won't run into issues for quite some time.

              ...

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
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                I highly recommend the Stewart water pump, I have one and it is very high quality.

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                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

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                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
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                • KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRollsK
                  KaiserRolls
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                  #9

                  Safety wire the oil pump nut

                  Silicone ICV hoses (overkill but I've had a one year old part break)

                  Not a bad idea to replace sensors when it's out of the car. (Knock, cps, cam position, coolant temp, etc)

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                  • KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRollsK
                    KaiserRolls
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                    #10

                    Oil pan baffle

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #11

                      Replace the engine mount arm hardware with something new/higher grade. I snapped two bolts off when trying to remove the engine mount arms from the block when I first got the engine.

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                      • B
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                        #12

                        I believe Jordan's S50 car did something similar. Or the hardware backed out or something.

                        Keep them coming!

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          Possible new coolant "spider" hose they can explode nice and randomly

                          New rubber grommet dealios for VC. They are always rock hard and weep

                          I try to keep stock of the clips the secure the ICV into the intake manifold. I always seem to break those damn things when removing them (new ones are a good idea, new rubber seal and all)

                          Fuel lines going from m20>24v seem to be a touch on the short side, I need to extend my rubber lines a bit to make it easier to reattach. Same goes for FPR>manifold vac line, I need to replace mine & add a vac block

                          This really has nothing to do with reliability or upgrades. Just annoying crap that I've noticed

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                          • m42b32M
                            m42b32M
                            m42b32
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                            KaiserRolls said:

                            Oil pan baffle

                            Maybe its different for the e34 oil pan, but s52's and probably the rest of the s/m5x group are notorious for gaining some lifter tick after a hard autocross run. A lot of people run their s52's a quart over full to help alleviate the problem (apparently it takes like 4 quarts above full to start having problems with the crank splashing and foaming the oil) but an oil pan baffle will also do a lot to improve it. Apparently it isn't a huge deal as far as damaging your engine, but it's certainly annoying. 

                            If you're a big baller with some extra spending money you can do an s54 dual pickup oiling system (this will only fit e36's, not swapped cars unless you have one of those fancy rear sump subframes/pans), but it's probably not worth the 1.5k+ on anything other than an expensive, fully built race motor.

                            1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                            • KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRollsK
                              KaiserRolls
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                              #15

                              If you're newly acquired m52 doesn't come with ground straps get some nice ones. Couple companies have aftermarket ones (chase bays, catuned, can't think of any others)

                              Ground for coilpacks too maybe

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRolls
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                someone said:

                                Maybe its different for the e34 oil pan, but s52's and probably the rest of the s/m5x group are notorious for gaining some lifter tick after a hard autocross run. A lot of people run their s52's a quart over full to help alleviate the problem (apparently it takes like 4 quarts above full to start having problems with the crank splashing and foaming the oil) but an oil pan baffle will also do a lot to improve it. Apparently it isn't a huge deal as far as damaging your engine, but it's certainly annoying. 

                                If you're a big baller with some extra spending money you can do an s54 dual pickup oiling system (this will only fit e36's, not swapped cars unless you have one of those fancy rear sump subframes/pans), but it's probably not worth the 1.5k+ on anything other than an expensive, fully built race motor.

                                I overfill by usually a quart or so.

                                Lifters get loud after 3/4 runs.

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                                • straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwrS
                                  straight6pwr
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                                  KaiserRolls said:

                                  Possible new coolant "spider" hose they can explode nice and randomly

                                  can confirm.

                                  Dan
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                                  • KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRollsK
                                    KaiserRolls
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                    http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
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                                      #19

                                      KaiserRolls said:

                                      Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                      http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

                                      f9b529405582fb1f000a29e559162798.jpg

                                      I have a couple spares of these in my toolbox lol, but plastic. 
                                      I have yet to blow mine off / apart at 14psi but I'm glad you found this because I shall replace the stock one with this!

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                                      • KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRollsK
                                        KaiserRolls
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                                        #20

                                        GunMetalGrey said:

                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                        http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

                                        f9b529405582fb1f000a29e559162798.jpg

                                        I have a couple spares of these in my toolbox lol, but plastic. 

                                        I have yet to blow mine off / apart at 14psi but I'm glad you found this because I shall replace the stock one with this! 

                                        It's not so much the "I'm going to blow it apart" aspect. More so the "I've already broken 3 of these" lol. Not to mention the fit when the plastic one is "clipped In" just doesn't feel snug

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                                        • DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFootD
                                          DrLeadFoot
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                                          If your crank damper has been off and on multiple times get a new key that locks the crank to that damper mount. I sheared one off and that was a big headache. Get a new crank bolt to.

                                          That stainless clip is tits!

                                          The water pump you picked up from me is a Stewart if I remember correctly.

                                          Just don't put a lock washer from ACE HARDWARE on your oil pump nut and all will be well.

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