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  • B
    B
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    Chatting with Kaiser today I realized there are probably a lot of parts that I dont know about, such as an upgraded timing chain tensioner (im still not sure which one is the upgraded part). Even just looking on ECS Tuning I found a hydraulic alternator belt tensioner retrofit kit. Help me make a list of reliability improvements, even if its something as simple as replacing a particular rubber hose with a silicone hose. I hope to learn of some new items 

    1.) Hydraulic Belt Tensioner 

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/hydraulic-alternator-belt-tensioner-conversion-kit/11287838797~kt/

    1. Aluminum Water Pump Pulley

    https://www.ecstuning.com/News/BMW_E36_M3_ECS_Aluminum_Water_Pump_Pulleys_Billet_6061_Anodized_Corrosion_Resistant_Direct_Fit_1995_1996_1997_1998_1999/

    1. Metal Impeller Water Pump

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-stewart-components-parts/high-performance-water-pump-with-o-ring/888010330~ste/

    1. Aluminum Water Pump Housing

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-parts/thermostat-housing/11531722531~uro/

    1. Silicone intake boot

    https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-340430-samco-silicone-intake-boot-stock-hfm-e36-323325328m3/?pdk=AQE

    1. Reinforced Oil Pickup Tube (rear sump only)

    http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Reinforced-Oil-Pick-Up-Tube-p/11-am-roput.htm

    1. Upgraded Oil Pump Shaft

    http://www.achillesmotorsports.com/Achilles-Motorsports-Upgraded-Oil-Pump-Shaft-Kit-p/11-am-uopsk.htm

    What else?

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    • patsbimmer1P
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      Does this swap use the m20 radiator or does it need an m5x radiator?

      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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      • B
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        Im using my aluminum ECS M20 radiator. I have read that I can use an M20 radiator but will have to see for myself

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        • patsbimmer1P
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          Are you already planning on deleting the mechanical fan?  If not I'd say that's up there on preventive maintenance.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

          BMWCCA #473306

          Instagram @patsbimmer1

          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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          • B
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            B C
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            I like the cooling performance of the mechanical fans but Im always a fan of more space in the engine bay so I will do a big electric pusher

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            • JeffJ
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              Jeff
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              I loved my first 2 mechanical fans. They worked great up until they exploded. After number 2 went I decided I was going to put a thermal relay in and a slim fan.

              1976 530i e12
              1990 325ix e30
              1992 325i e36
              1995 740il e38
              2001 330xi e46
              ^More to come :)

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              • GunMetalGreyG
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                Snap said:

                Im using my aluminum ECS M20 radiator. I have read that I can use an M20 radiator but will have to see for myself

                It will work just fine

                Snap said:

                I like the cooling performance of the mechanical fans but Im always a fan of more space in the engine bay so I will do a big electric pusher

                They sometimes fit, but if you touch the brakes you will put the fan into the radiator, so stay safe and run a pusher in front. 

                As you mentioned the hydraulic chain tensioner isn't a bad way to go. 
                Replacing the chain guides is worthwhile because they aren't too expensive and I have seen a few broken ones in my day. 
                If you feel like it you could throw a new o ring set at vanos. 

                It's not always about "upgrading" things like the intake boot but more about replacing old ones and by being new you won't run into issues for quite some time.

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                • jc43089J
                  jc43089J
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                  I highly recommend the Stewart water pump, I have one and it is very high quality.

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                  • KaiserRollsK
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                    Safety wire the oil pump nut

                    Silicone ICV hoses (overkill but I've had a one year old part break)

                    Not a bad idea to replace sensors when it's out of the car. (Knock, cps, cam position, coolant temp, etc)

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                    • KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRollsK
                      KaiserRolls
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                      #10

                      Oil pan baffle

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                      • KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRollsK
                        KaiserRolls
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                        Replace the engine mount arm hardware with something new/higher grade. I snapped two bolts off when trying to remove the engine mount arms from the block when I first got the engine.

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                        • B
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                          I believe Jordan's S50 car did something similar. Or the hardware backed out or something.

                          Keep them coming!

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                          • KaiserRollsK
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                            Possible new coolant "spider" hose they can explode nice and randomly

                            New rubber grommet dealios for VC. They are always rock hard and weep

                            I try to keep stock of the clips the secure the ICV into the intake manifold. I always seem to break those damn things when removing them (new ones are a good idea, new rubber seal and all)

                            Fuel lines going from m20>24v seem to be a touch on the short side, I need to extend my rubber lines a bit to make it easier to reattach. Same goes for FPR>manifold vac line, I need to replace mine & add a vac block

                            This really has nothing to do with reliability or upgrades. Just annoying crap that I've noticed

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                            • m42b32M
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                              KaiserRolls said:

                              Oil pan baffle

                              Maybe its different for the e34 oil pan, but s52's and probably the rest of the s/m5x group are notorious for gaining some lifter tick after a hard autocross run. A lot of people run their s52's a quart over full to help alleviate the problem (apparently it takes like 4 quarts above full to start having problems with the crank splashing and foaming the oil) but an oil pan baffle will also do a lot to improve it. Apparently it isn't a huge deal as far as damaging your engine, but it's certainly annoying. 

                              If you're a big baller with some extra spending money you can do an s54 dual pickup oiling system (this will only fit e36's, not swapped cars unless you have one of those fancy rear sump subframes/pans), but it's probably not worth the 1.5k+ on anything other than an expensive, fully built race motor.

                              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
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                                If you're newly acquired m52 doesn't come with ground straps get some nice ones. Couple companies have aftermarket ones (chase bays, catuned, can't think of any others)

                                Ground for coilpacks too maybe

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                                • KaiserRollsK
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                                  someone said:

                                  Maybe its different for the e34 oil pan, but s52's and probably the rest of the s/m5x group are notorious for gaining some lifter tick after a hard autocross run. A lot of people run their s52's a quart over full to help alleviate the problem (apparently it takes like 4 quarts above full to start having problems with the crank splashing and foaming the oil) but an oil pan baffle will also do a lot to improve it. Apparently it isn't a huge deal as far as damaging your engine, but it's certainly annoying. 

                                  If you're a big baller with some extra spending money you can do an s54 dual pickup oiling system (this will only fit e36's, not swapped cars unless you have one of those fancy rear sump subframes/pans), but it's probably not worth the 1.5k+ on anything other than an expensive, fully built race motor.

                                  I overfill by usually a quart or so.

                                  Lifters get loud after 3/4 runs.

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                                  • straight6pwrS
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                                    KaiserRolls said:

                                    Possible new coolant "spider" hose they can explode nice and randomly

                                    can confirm.

                                    Dan
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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
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                                      Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                      http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
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                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                        http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

                                        f9b529405582fb1f000a29e559162798.jpg

                                        I have a couple spares of these in my toolbox lol, but plastic. 
                                        I have yet to blow mine off / apart at 14psi but I'm glad you found this because I shall replace the stock one with this!

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                                        • KaiserRollsK
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                                          GunMetalGrey said:

                                          KaiserRolls said:

                                          Great news!!! No more broken clips & something that will actually seal

                                          http://rebooteng.com/parts/m50-intake-manifold-fitting/

                                          f9b529405582fb1f000a29e559162798.jpg

                                          I have a couple spares of these in my toolbox lol, but plastic. 

                                          I have yet to blow mine off / apart at 14psi but I'm glad you found this because I shall replace the stock one with this! 

                                          It's not so much the "I'm going to blow it apart" aspect. More so the "I've already broken 3 of these" lol. Not to mention the fit when the plastic one is "clipped In" just doesn't feel snug

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