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  • i_love_carsI
    i_love_carsI
    i_love_cars
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    you thinking of adding to the stable or selling your E36? You seemed pretty set on it when we talked at Cars & Coffee. 

    330XI imo is a pure commuter BMW. It was well received and handles well enough for a 3-series, reasonably tight, but to me when I see a 2006+ 330 or a 325, in stock form, i think "there goes another person who wanted a BMW just to say they have a BMW. Clearly not a driving enthusiast". The wheels need to be replaced, the exhaust looks too small and doesn't fit the chassis, and it still screams "omg omg omg I got a bmw, can i be part of the cool kids club now too?!" 

    In practical terms, however, a '06 330 MIGHT be cheaper than an early N54 like an '07 335. The N54 was BMW's first attempt at a direct-injection turbo engine ever, and it shows. There were widespread issues with the high pressure fuel pump, the turbo wastegates - both of which BMW extended the warranty on - 120k miles on the fuel pump and 84k on the wastegates. Then there were also a lot of fuel injector failures and cracked valve covers. I could say water pumps as well but that's a common BMW thing in general due to their shitty electronic pumps. Common across many models. 

    I say the 330 MIGHT be cheaper than a 335xi because the flipside to the reliability coin is that, in the vast majority of cases, any '07 335 that you look at, in the year 2015, will have invariably had the fuel pump replaced, injectors replaced, wastegates/turbos replaced - all of which have newer designs that are better and more reliable now. I think the car was a much bigger risk in 09-11 where if you were buying an '07 you could be getting one just out of warranty and prior to BMW giving extended warranties on those parts, forcing you to pay out of pocket unless the stealership goodwills it. 

    The engines and trans are basically bulletproof, it's just those peripheral components that you need to verify have been replaced. 

    That said, I would much sooner look for a well-kept '07 335xi with service records before an 06 330 because of the performance difference. N54 is just such a beautiful engine with so much potential for so little money and makes reliable power. It's a no-brainer in my book.

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    • LFE36M3L
      LFE36M3L
      LFE36M3
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      #3

      Thanks! Thats a lot of help! And im adding to the stable, i need a new DD (1999 4runner is getting old), i could never give up my e36 to much of my blood and sweat in that car lol. I like the 335 better i just worry about turbo problems down the road,but your saying if it has been replaced it should be good to go then. I will look more in to those. Thanks again for your input

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      • patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1
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        I started looking at a 330i that I drove at TJ's place of business and was impressed by it.  It is definitely a step up in power compared to the e36 but once I found that a 335i was in my budget the 330i just didn't seem to make sense.  I would echo Jordan's statements about the component issues on the n54 such as the wastegates but if you can find a vehicle that is still in warranty or has had it replaced then you are good to go!

        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
        95 325is *sold*
        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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        • LFE36M3L
          LFE36M3L
          LFE36M3
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          #5

          Cool thanks i do like the idea of the 335's hp. The problems are a bit worrying. But if there fixed i should good to go is what im gathering. I do like the 335 better.

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          • B
            B
            B C
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            IMO a car like a 335i would be worth putting up with an expensive repair, unlike putting up with an expensive repair on a snoozemobile

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            • LFE36M3L
              LFE36M3L
              LFE36M3
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              Lol i try not to have "expensive repairs" at all. Just not shur if i need a turbo (and the costs that go with them) in my DD. As far as for fun of the drive that's what the E36 is for :) its the fun car, plus i can do my own wrench turning on that. And that's 1/2 the fun!

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              • YoungCRY
                YoungCRY
                YoungCR
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                Fwiw N52 328i's are great cars too. It's the evolutionary end of the NA straight six and is fun with a 6 speed behind it. Otherwise I do agree with others though, 330i's aren't really worth it plus I dislike early models in general.

                Chris Young
                BMWCCA #458972
                1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                • LFE36M3L
                  LFE36M3L
                  LFE36M3
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                  Thanks i had not looked at the 328i but i will have to check in to that more im really just looking in to a 3 series of some kind if it happens to be a fast/fun drive thats just a plus.

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                  • LFE36M3L
                    LFE36M3L
                    LFE36M3
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                    #10

                    2000, 323i with 85k, 1 owner. Any thoughts or opinions? It is just a DD to get me to work and the store. Any big problems i should look for when i go to look at it, (typical cooling problems excluded)

                    Thanks

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                    • wasnt m3W
                      wasnt m3W
                      wasnt m3
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                      It it's auto, you'd probably want one that's had the transmission updated with the new reverse drum. Check the rear subframe and make sure there's no cracks on the body around where it mounts. Overall, they are great cars.

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                      • LFE36M3L
                        LFE36M3L
                        LFE36M3
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                        Thanks!

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                        • LFE36M3L
                          LFE36M3L
                          LFE36M3
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                          #13

                          Going to look at a car tonight 2003 330i 98k miles. Any thoughts? I know to look at sub frame and cooling. Any other big things? Thanks

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
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                            The subframe issue should be pretty apparent once you drive it.  It sounds like somebody is slamming a bowling ball in the trunk on shifts or a hard take off.  Struts and shocks are probably original and should be replaced so that's something to keep in mind with that mileage.  The DISA valve near the intake mani tends to rattle on these and can cause serious damage if not repaired so at idle I would listen for that rattle. 

                            edit: The DISA valve is an easy fix but if you have to replace the whole thing it is around $200.  Typically you can clean them or buy the repair kit for them.

                            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
                            93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                            BMWCCA #473306

                            Instagram @patsbimmer1

                            AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                            "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                            • LFE36M3L
                              LFE36M3L
                              LFE36M3
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                              Ok thanks i will check for that

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                              • LFE36M3L
                                LFE36M3L
                                LFE36M3
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                                #16

                                Looking at a 330xi can anyone tell me how to tell if its a awd other then the trunk badge. It has 330xi, but the vin plate in the door has 330iA-4/16 10/03 build date.

                                Any way to tell other then the trunk badge would be awesome. Thanks

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                                • B
                                  B
                                  B C
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                                  It depends on what level you are:

                                  Novice level: look under car for front drive axles

                                  Expert level: bounce it off the limiter and launch it

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                                  • LFE36M3L
                                    LFE36M3L
                                    LFE36M3
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                                    #18

                                    Lol well i dont know how the seller would feel if i was launching there car but looking for the drive axels would be a good idea.... i should have thought of that lol

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