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  • jc43089J
    jc43089J
    jc43089
    wrote on last edited by
    #2042

    Well they offered me the job and I countered that I would like to see more or a signing bonus to help with moving expenses.  So we shall see what happens tomorrow.  It is more of a lateral move as far as pay but has potential for future growth.  Now I am maxed out so it would be a good move in that regard.  Or is anyone here looking for a controls engineer?  Lots of Allen Bradley experience.

    How much have you bargained for when moving to a new position/job?

    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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    • B
      B
      B C
      wrote on last edited by
      #2043

      Ive never asked for more money than the position was advertised for. it might be a loss on my end but I really dont haggle numbers on anything. If a glass sea turtle in mexico, 1993 camry on craigslist, brand new car at the dealership etc seems to be a fair deal to me, I pay asking price and go on my way.

      Maybe i suck at life

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      • D
        D
        Doorman
        wrote on last edited by
        #2044

        Snap said:

        Ive never asked for more money than the position was advertised for. it might be a loss on my end but I really dont haggle numbers on anything. If a glass sea turtle in mexico, 1993 camry on craigslist, brand new car at the dealership etc seems to be a fair deal to me, I pay asking price and go on my way.Maybe i suck at life

        I don't think that means you suck at life.

        I'm sure you also do plenty of research before your sea turtle, Camry, new car, etc purchases and know that what's fair is fair.

        Karma also comes back to bite you if you "act a fool" when haggling......

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
          #2045

          jc43089 said:

          Well they offered me the job and I countered that I would like to see more or a signing bonus to help with moving expenses. So we shall see what happens tomorrow. It is more of a lateral move as far as pay but has potential for future growth. Now I am maxed out so it would be a good move in that regard. Or is anyone here looking for a controls engineer? Lots of Allen Bradley experience.

          How much have you bargained for when moving to a new position/job?

          I have bargained every promotion and lateral move I have ever had and a couple merrit raises. There is usually room somewhere for you to get something especially if you were sought out for the position. Relo costs are usually more easily negotiated than salary because its a one time payment usually and the total relo price should be negotiated post-tax. Research the market ypur moving to and if its an increase in cost of living then try to negotiate that increase into a salary anf sell it as a hardship if you take the position. This is assuming benefits are all the same. You may find that there is nothing more they can give you but a chance at an increase/ptomotion later on and if thats the case then ask for a timeline.

          Negotiating a guaranteed review after 6 months with an opportunity for a merrit raise is another angle you can try. Thats more of a win-win situation and your betting on yourself then.

          one thing I always keep in mind when promises are made though... the guy making them isn't guaranteed to be there to follow through when the time comes. Get a signed offer letter.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

          BMWCCA #473306

          Instagram @patsbimmer1

          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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          • B
            B
            B C
            wrote on last edited by
            #2046

            Great advice Pat!

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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
              wrote on last edited by
              #2047

              Good thoughts, I did not bargain when I started here but I was right out of school.  Now it is for a different position within the same company and have developed relationships and reputation that I feel it is acceptable.  I was also referred to the position by someone visiting the plant for a project, who would be a close coworker in the new position.  Benefits, PTO are all nearly the same, my main reason to go would be that the job would be in line with my career goals.

              Thinking about it now I have a much better idea of what i am getting myself into than going to a new company which is a huge plus.  I already know and get along with my potential new boss and have met most of the people I would be working with.  It is still hourly so overtime is compensated.  Downsides are relocating to the Austin MN area.  It's not really any closer or further from family (Wausau) but will be a decent amount of work to sell our house and move everything including my stupid e36...  Unfortunately being hourly the typical policy is that there is no relocation assistance.

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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              • KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRolls
                wrote on last edited by
                #2048

                Sometimes you just gotta swallow the pill to get in the door.

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                • patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2049

                  If there is no relo assistance then I would SERIOUSLY think about the pros n cons. Thats a huge financial and emotional burden to take on for a lateral move. I would definitely aim for assistance. A u haul for that move is going to be around $600 plus the cost of a realtor and gas/food/hotel to take trips to find a place to live, etc. I would say the move is going to cost at least $1500 and more if you have to get storage until you find a residence, stay in an extended stay hotel or throw money at rent.

                  Longevity is great and the opportunity for growth is wonderful but fuzzy feelings aside for the co-workers, if your 2 year plan doesn't recoup your investment plus a return in 5 then the move is a hardship and unnecessary.

                  Thats my devils advocate piece for the day.

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                  BMWCCA #473306

                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  • jc43089J
                    jc43089J
                    jc43089
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2050

                    KaiserRolls said:

                    Sometimes you just gotta swallow the pill to get in the door.

                    That's what she said?

                    patsbimmer1 said:

                    If there is no relo assistance then I would SERIOUSLY think about the pros n cons. Thats a huge financial and emotional burden to take on for a lateral move. I would definitely aim for assistance. A u haul for that move is going to be around $600 plus the cost of a realtor and gas/food/hotel to take trips to find a place to live, etc. I would say the move is going to cost at least $1500 and more if you have to get storage until you find a residence, stay in an extended stay hotel or throw money at rent.

                    Longevity is great and the opportunity for growth is wonderful but fuzzy feelings aside for the co-workers, if your 2 year plan doesn't recoup your investment plus a return in 5 then the move is a hardship and unnecessary.

                    Thats my devils advocate piece for the day.

                    It isn't a completely lateral move, about 2$/hr.  But that isn't a huge amount.  The big thing is that the job is a junior controls engineer which is the direction I want to go.  Currently I am a controls and instrumentation tech.  It is good that my wife is insistent on what you said about needing to pay off in less than 2 years.  We balance each other :P .

                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2051

                      As promised!
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                      So that last picture is what he sent me after he got it back, I am actually not sure if it was like that before or not. He had drilled those holes way out and there was almost no material left in there lol. 
                      So there it is folks.

                      ...

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                      • jc43089J
                        jc43089J
                        jc43089
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2052

                        What was the back story?

                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        • R
                          R
                          REKIII
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2053

                          Why does it seem there are a lot of your replies missing?

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                          • EarlE
                            EarlE
                            Earl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2054

                            You're a pretty nice ginger to me=P

                            museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                            • GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGreyG
                              GunMetalGrey
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2055

                              Back story is that I was interested in the oil filter housing he posted. I told him I would do cash and a stock one. When I got his I knew it wasn't right and wanted to send it back to him. So I wasn't going to send him the one that was part of the deal, as I wanted to reverse the deal.

                              No replies are missing from me, that's just how he sent it lol, check the timestamps on each post.

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                              • B
                                B
                                B C
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2056

                                You conducted yourself in a calm mature manner and out of nowhere he hits a menstrual cycle and crosses the line.

                                Sorry you had to deal with such a jerk. Kudos for not going on the attack/defense like he did

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                                • YoungCRY
                                  YoungCRY
                                  YoungCR
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2057

                                  I thought him just blowing up over nothing was funny but then the ginger red e30 driving asshole comments came in lmfao.

                                  Chris Young
                                  BMWCCA #458972
                                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                                  • ClassEC
                                    ClassEC
                                    ClassE
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2058

                                    I can practically hear the conversation now between him and a buddy:

                                    "So he wants a refund for it now?"

                                    "Yeah"

                                    "Well did you say it was gonna come with the thermostat?"

                                    "Not really"

                                    "Then tell him to piss off, screw him!"

                                    Sucks that he's being an asshole tho.

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2059

                                      The whole thermostat thing wouldn't have been a huge deal expect for the fact that you cannot get just a thermostat. The OEM part number is for the assembly, including a thermostat.

                                      ...

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                                      • EarlE
                                        EarlE
                                        Earl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2060

                                        I wonder where the thermostat went from when he removed it from his car lol

                                        museum sig 2earl.jpg

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                                        • andyhundleyA
                                          andyhundleyA
                                          andyhundley
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2061

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                                          I think the correct terminology is a check valve. It's holds oil in the filter housing to prevent a dry start. A coworker recalls buying them online somewhere for like $5 but doesn't remember where. It looks like you are missing some material there. What motor is this off of? The housing I posted is from a M54 for reference.

                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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