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1992 525it with an M30B35 Swap

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    Laishes
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    Snap said:

    you and straight6pwr need to engage in a wagon race. 

    Snap, I also decided that I would've missed the old 12v sound and backfires which is why I decided to trade. I think the M30 picks up where the M20 left off (timing chain + more displacement and reliable to 300k) and I thought it was cool to have in a wagon. Kaiser's car is quick but it was almost too smooth for my taste

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    • YoungCRY
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      YoungCR
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      Hell yeah! This is what I'm talking about :D Welcome back to the 5er family.

      Chris Young
      BMWCCA #458972
      1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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      • KaiserRollsK
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        KaiserRolls
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        Need more pics!!!

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          Laishes said:

          Snap, I also decided that I would've missed the old 12v sound and backfires which is why I decided to trade. I think the M30 picks up where the M20 left off (timing chain + more displacement and reliable to 300k) and I thought it was cool to have in a wagon. Kaiser's car is quick but it was almost too smooth for my taste

          I get to be an asshole now:

          -Timing belts waste less power than timing chains

          -An M20 timing belt change interval is 60k miles, that's  once every 4 years on your average daily driven vehicle. 

          -Timing sprockets get worn down and timing chains jump timing (for any non-believers: http://forum.roadfly.com/threads/12565880-735i-(M30)-Timing-Chain-Jumped)

          -Timing chains stretch, chain guides wear out, tensioners wear out, bad noises are had and you will end up having to dig into the car to replace them anyways (then factor in the cost of a new chain, new sprockets, and all other timing chain components since you are already in there and heaven forbid you tear into the engine this far ever again because you were trying to avoid this type of thing by purposely avoiding an engine with a timing belt).... this is more involved and far more money than your once every 4 years timing belt change would ever be.

          -As of a month ago Gates started making a "racing" timing belt for the M20. not that any of the 500+hp  turbo M20s had problems with the stock belt anyways.

          Theres nothing wrong with timing chains, they are a good thing, but there is also nothing wrong with timing belts. People that despise them are likely too cheap to do most other preventative maintenance either. 

          /soapbox derby

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          • straight6pwrS
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            straight6pwr
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            #15

            sweet e34 touring.

            the 5 speed is a great addition, although personally i would say the m30 is a backwards step from the m50.

            i would love to ride in it sometime to see what a touring with suspension drives like compared to stock!

            Dan
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              Laishes
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              Snap said:

              I get to be an asshole now

              When is this not the case ;)

              I'm just afraid of the timing belts on these old cars.

              P.O.s "say" it was done 20k ago but was it really? How would you ever know?

              Having a timing chain is just extra assurance; not saying the belts are bad whatsoever--the m20 engine will go forever

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                Laishes
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                straight6pwr said:

                sweet e34 touring.

                the 5 speed is a great addition, although personally i would say the m30 is a backwards step from the m50.

                i would love to ride in it sometime to see what a touring with suspension drives like compared to stock!

                It rides O.K.

                I wish it was lowered on coils but the H&Rs arent too bad.

                Not too much body roll in the corners at all.

                And I think the M30 is about on par with the M50 personally; the M50 is just more modern and "smooth"

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                  Rowleym
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                  We are turboing it I don't care what you say. 

                  Build thread:

                  some big injectors

                  walbro in tank-100

                  hx40-150-400

                  arp studs-200

                  ms2-300

                  cheap intercooler that fits-100-200

                  Ill build the manifold from scraps.

                  Some ebay clutch. 300 tops

                  DONE. Shits cheap.

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                  sk8 or die

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                  • Brian.B
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                    Brian.
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                    Rowleym said:

                    We are turboing it I don't care what you say. 

                    Build thread:

                    some big injectors

                    walbro in tank-100

                    hx40-150-400

                    arp studs-200

                    ms2-300

                    cheap intercooler that fits-100-200

                    Ill build the manifold from scraps.

                    Some ebay clutch. 300 tops

                    DONE. Shits cheap. 

                    Hodge podge turbo builds are cool, if done on a car that no one gives 2 fucks about. but as a daily as well as a touring, I'd suggest going a legit build, if he were to even go turbo route.

                    Also, double check it's a B35 head. Could be a B34, not a biggie, but that little bit would go a long way! :D

                    instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                      Rowleym
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                      Brian. said:

                      Hodge podge turbo builds are cool, if done on a car that no one gives 2 fucks about. but as a daily as well as a touring, I'd suggest going a legit build, if he were to even go turbo route.

                      Please tell me an item on that list that isn't legit.... Well except the clutch, but many many people have had success with f1 clutches.

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                      • Brian.B
                        Brian.B
                        Brian.
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                        home brew manifold, for one. RARELY turns out well. and RARELY performs like it should. 

                        Cheap intercooler.

                        hx40 - still to big

                        Just saying.

                        instagram @howdoyoudrivethat

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                          Laishes
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                          Rowleym said:

                          I'm gonna build an e34 wagon with a big turbo m30 in it some day!! Mad jealous. Love e34 wagons. I've been looking forever for a manual one around here.

                          Rowleym said:

                          We are turboing it I don't care what you say. 

                          Build thread:

                          some big injectors

                          walbro in tank-100

                          hx40-150-400

                          arp studs-200

                          ms2-300

                          cheap intercooler that fits-100-200

                          Ill build the manifold from scraps.

                          Some ebay clutch. 300 tops

                          DONE. Shits cheap. 

                          Hahaha!

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                            Rowleym
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                            Brian. said:

                            home brew manifold, for one. RARELY turns out well. and RARELY performs like it should. 

                            Cheap intercooler.

                            hx40 - still to big

                            Just saying. 

                            BUllllllllshit. 

                            Anything smaller than an hx40 and you would have full boost..... alll the time. I don't believe in turbo's in a daily that spool before 3500. Its just ridiculous. 

                            cxracing intercoolers have definitely been proven many many times, and there is no need for a 1000$ intercooler when you have a stock block. 

                            And you think I can't design a manifold? I wouldn't need to. Just copy a simple design. Sure I probably couldn't build the best twin scroll equal length manifold, but shit I have all the tools and materials to build a m30 manifold right now. 

                            Why else would I have bought a brand new tig welder?

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                              Rowleym
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                              Laishes said:

                              Hahaha!

                              So. How much would you sell it for? And hint, the answer is not "I don't want to sell it" :)

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                                Laishes
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                                Rowleym said:

                                So. How much would you sell it for? And hint, the answer is not "I don't want to sell it" :)

                                Not fo' sale

                                I got this thing for a steal considering I bought my e30 for $1400

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                                  Rowleym
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                                  Laishes said:

                                  Not fo' sale

                                  I got this thing for a steal considering I bought my e30 for $1400

                                  I hate you... and Yes I completely understand the steal. Just not fair :)

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                                    Laishes
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                                    Rowleym said:

                                    I hate you... and Yes I completely understand the steal. Just not fair :)

                                    You could always swap your own!

                                    I looked it up however and the swap seems very daunting. It's a difficult swap for sure.

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                                      Laishes
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                                      Rowleym said:

                                      I hate you... and Yes I completely understand the steal. Just not fair :)

                                      I do want to turbo it eventually but I wont have any of the funds soon enough unless I sell my daily driver

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                                        Laishes
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                                        Brian. said:

                                        Hodge podge turbo builds are cool, if done on a car that no one gives 2 fucks about. but as a daily as well as a touring, I'd suggest going a legit build, if he were to even go turbo route.

                                        Also, double check it's a B35 head. Could be a B34, not a biggie, but that little bit would go a long way! :D

                                        Rowleym said:

                                        BUllllllllshit. Anything smaller than an hx40 and you would have full boost..... alll the time. I don't believe in turbo's in a daily that spool before 3500. Its just ridiculous. 

                                        cxracing intercoolers have definitely been proven many many times, and there is no need for a 1000$ intercooler when you have a stock block. 

                                        And you think I can't design a manifold? I wouldn't need to. Just copy a simple design. Sure I probably couldn't build the best twin scroll equal length manifold, but shit I have all the tools and materials to build a m30 manifold right now. 

                                        Why else would I have bought a brand new tig welder?

                                        Just because it's a wagon doesn't mean it won't be garage queening it up!

                                        I have my trusty toyota corolla as a daily driver

                                        Personally I would most likely run an HX35 for my setup?

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