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Yet ANOTHER Noob from Milwaukee -- Looking to replace suspension

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    xgeetx
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    #21

    Alright, Earl, I think you sold me. I've been doing some research and it sounds like they're great for a cheap set. I have one worry: speed bumps. It sounds like they have to lower at least 1"... how low before speed bumps start screwing up your car? I already have some torn pieces underneath my car (do I just get those welded, or just not car?), and don't want it to get much worse :).

    I think I'd like to replace the mounts all around, since I'm pretty sure this car went 167k on one set of struts, it's probably best to swap out whatever is easy to do while we're in there! I imagine that means mounts & bump stops... anything else that's a good idea to pick up? Also, I can't believe the springs are so thin! The stock ones (at least on the back) are huge.

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    • wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3W
      wasnt m3
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      #22

      My e46 is lowered about 3.5" and have to go over speed bumps every day. You'll be fine.

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        wasnt m3W
        wasnt m3
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        #23

        Earl is right with the rear mounts. Go with e46 m3 convertible mounts.

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        • EarlE
          EarlE
          Earl
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          #24

          Bump stops are on the coils already too. I would just do mounts. I drove my car that I pictured over speed bumps so you will be just fine=D 1" lower than stock is probably where your blown struts have you at now

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            xgeetx
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            #25

            Alright. Raceland's shipping is like $40??! Come on now! I'll be doing some last minute comparing this weekend to determine what I want to buy :). When would you be available to get together? Why do you have a garage in milwaukee? Are you going to murder me? What would you like for compensation :)?

            Why do i get e46 m3 convertible mounts for my e36 non-m? More durable? they'll still fit?

            Edit: I'm a little concerned about clearance after seeing this http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1480398-Help-with-installing-coilovers

            Was he running non-stock tires? I'll get the numbers off the sides of my tires to be absolutely sure what I've got. Also, I don't see the bump stops on there... and I'd like to replace the stock ones, can you clarify how they're on there somehow? Also, what exactly is the difference between the helper springs and the normal springs? Sorry for all the questions, I really want to understand what's going in my car, and I don't see how these coilovers are equivalent to what I've been shopping for this whole time! I'm warming up to them though

            Thanks!

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            • EarlE
              EarlE
              Earl
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              #26

              The helper is supposedly to make the ride softer. I never run them. They sit above the normal spring. The bump stops are at the top in the front inside the top perch. The rear doesnt have them. The e46 convertible mounts are a direct bolt in and are stronger than the e36 mounts. Our stock mounts are prone for going up through where the shock bolts.

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              • EarlE
                EarlE
                Earl
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                Also, i never had clearance issues on stock tires.

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                  xgeetx
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                  #28

                  Sounds good. Well I'm doing my radiator tomorrow (got all the parts, woo!), so if that all goes well I'll put in an order for the Ultimos! Do you know if you actually have to jack the car up to bleed the radiator properly? My driveway is inclined, and there's a piece of cement that you have to bump over to get in the garage... I was thinking of just putting it there when I bleed the system. Thoughts?

                  Thanks for all your help, I'm really glad you saved me $400 lol

                  BTW: Based on the good old finger test, my back wheels currently have no clearance between them and the fender... I guess that means it's a little low? ha! The front I can fit ~3 fingers. I'm assuming it's because the back springs are broken, whereas the fronts are in tact.

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                  • EarlE
                    EarlE
                    Earl
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                    #29

                    Yeah the rears tend to snap. Mine were garbage when I removed them.

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                      jc43089
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                      Bleeding is not as difficult as it is made out to be, a slight upward incline can help.  I drill a 1/16" hole in the thermostat at the highest point possible, some brands come with a hole already and the tiny hole does not flow enough during normal operation to affect anything.  I would recommend BMW blue coolant or Evans NPG (the Evans is more work because the system must be flushed and all water removed so it's not really feasible unless doing major work already), both will protect against corrosion better and the Evans is lifetime coolant.  Use a bottle of Redline "Water Wetter" or Royal Purple "Purple Ice" if using regular green/yellow coolant for additional corrosion protection.

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        industrialsized
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                        #31

                        i would recomend jom's veedubmachine.com like 310 shiped don't buy billies or bav auto springs

                         i like the jom's but really thier the same as racelands  and while your under there you better replace your trailing arm bushings I have the tool if you need it

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                          xgeetx
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                          #32

                          Hmmm. I think I like the idea of getting something made in Germany over something made in China. Any of you other guys have any input?

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                            #33

                            I have owned parts made in China that have had superior quality and performance to parts made in the US or Germany. 

                            It has little to do with the country of manufacture, and a lot to do with  the company that does the engineering and dictates the tolerances, standards of quality, and inspection/acceptance.

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                              xgeetx
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                              #34

                              Hmmmm.... fair point. I guess I give too much credit to that TUV certification I know nothing about! Any thoughts on the product themselves? Jom's vs. racelands vs. a struts/shocks/springs set (probably monroes to match this pricepoint...).

                              I'm impressed that these coilovers are so cheap, when low end struts/shocks/springs can barely match the price. I would only lower a bit from stock (maybe an 1" since I like where my blown suspension sits). I really just want to save money for decent handling on the street.

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                              • EarlE
                                EarlE
                                Earl
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                                The Raceland Ultimos are better than JOMs from what I have heard. I would stick with the Racelands

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                                  xgeetx
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                                  #36

                                  Alrighty! I think I got my radiator leak figured out (drove to work today.. .no leaking so far), so I ordered the Raceland Ultimos. I was debating it and googling around, but nothing beats a recommendation based on experience vs. fan-dom. I will order the mounts from PelicanParts either today or tomorrow, so I should be good to throw 'em in next weekend provided you are also free :)

                                  I'll be getting the e46 convertible rear mounts and just normal mounts for the front, then?

                                  What kind of spring pads should i throw on the back of this beast?

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                                  • wasnt m3W
                                    wasnt m3W
                                    wasnt m3
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                                    #37

                                    E46 M3 convertible mounts for the rear. You don't necessarily need spring pads. Keep the original pads if they are still intact.

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                                      mkoepp
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                                      #38

                                      http://www.wibimmers.com/board/index.php?/topic/942-welcome-to-the-new-member-introduction-section/

                                      This should be in the General Technical section.

                                      Just sayin

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                                        xgeetx
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                                        Well I will admit it has developed into something that should go there, but the thread you referenced does say "newbie questions" and "anything goes" :)

                                        I think this thread is about wrapped up though, and I'll communicate with Earl via PM from here on out. Sorry about that!

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                                        • YoungCRY
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                                          YoungCR
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                                          xgeetx said:

                                          Well I will admit it has developed into something that should go there, but the thread you referenced does say "newbie questions" and "anything goes" :)

                                          I think this thread is about wrapped up though, and I'll communicate with Earl via PM from here on out. Sorry about that!

                                          No problems! We're loosely organized around here anyways  :huh: .

                                          Chris Young
                                          BMWCCA #458972
                                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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