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Hello. My name is Dan, and today I doomsday prepped

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  • straight6pwrS
    straight6pwrS
    straight6pwr
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    #535

    B C said:

    Lets go take pics tonight!  The blackness of my paint will tie in with the blackness of everything else!

    I'd like to see a long exposure needle sweep photo of a tach. Im sure my temperature gauge would have a nice needle sweep too if we wait long enough.

    black should be interesting! i'm free tonight, hit me up.

    Dan
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    • patsbimmer1P
      patsbimmer1P
      patsbimmer1
      wrote on last edited by
      #536

      straight6pwr said:

      black should be interesting! i'm free tonight, hit me up. 

      It's way past @B C bed time by the time it gets dark

      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
      95 325is *sold*
      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

      BMWCCA #473306

      Instagram @patsbimmer1

      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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      • straight6pwrS
        straight6pwrS
        straight6pwr
        wrote on last edited by
        #537

        ok e30 guys, need some help.

        my aux fan stopped working a couple months ago and ive finally got around to addressing it. the fan ended up being fine, i think my temporary wiring failed at some joint. anyways, i moved to step 2 of temporary wiring to solve it. i've got the system setup as follows:

        4-pin relay.

        1. Input power from main positive battery terminal in engine bay, with 30amp fuse inline.

        2.Output power to Spal fan

        3.Switch power from aux fan wiring (12v on ignition)

        4.Switch ground to main engine chassis ground.

        the Spal fan ground then goes through the single temp (82c) switch i installed in the radiator, which then goes to chassis ground.:

        ueN1NGN.jpg

        so, this all works great and the fan did switch on when the temp switch got hot enough and the car cooled down.  however, the fan kicked on when needle on the gauge was about a needle's width shy of red. i assumed the lower temp (82c) would get the fan going sooner than that. it seemed to me that the top right corner of the radiator was cooler than the rest of the radiator and that may be why it happened. i've never actually owned an e30 that had working ac, or that overheated in any way to have the AUX fan kick on, so this is new territory for me. is it supposed to kick on that late?

        Dan
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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          #538

          The sensor is sensing the cold side of the radiator which is essentially the coolant supplied to the engine.  I've had great results with an 80/88c low speed/ high speed switch on multiple e36s but on an e30 I tried it on it seemed late to turn on and the e30 fan isn't as good as e36 aux fan (spal should be better though).  I was uncomfortable and reinstalled the mechanical fan.  I didn't have a real temp gauge though so I am not sure what the temp really was.

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          • straight6pwrS
            straight6pwrS
            straight6pwr
            wrote on last edited by
            #539

            jc43089 said:

            The sensor is sensing the cold side of the radiator which is essentially the coolant supplied to the engine.  I've had great results with an 80/88c low speed/ high speed switch on multiple e36s but on an e30 I tried it on it seemed late to turn on and the e30 fan isn't as good as e36 aux fan (spal should be better though).  I was uncomfortable and reinstalled the mechanical fan.  I didn't have a real temp gauge though so I am not sure what the temp really was.  

            the 16" spal fan does work great when its on. you can see the needle fall almost instantly. there is actually no room for a mech. fan with the 24v swap, so that is not an option. 

            i think i might have to get a 

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            to check real temperatures of the radiator and engine.

            Dan
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            • jc43089J
              jc43089J
              jc43089
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              #540

              Is the temp sensor m12x1.5 thread?  If so you could use an e36 temp switch which is available in an 80c.  That is what I have in my e36 and it works great.  I have an Autometer gauge and the fan turns on around 210F at the cylinder head temp port.  I have a Spal 16" and it brings the temp down pretty quick and shuts off.  Pics here.

              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                gilber33
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                #541

                For what it's worth, I'm running the stock fan and according to my water temp gauge in the car, the fan kicks on around 200/210 degrees. On the gauge that translates to the needle at the line between the middle and the red bar.

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                • m42b32M
                  m42b32M
                  m42b32
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                  #542

                  A tempgun is probably a good thing to try since I don't necessarily trust the factory gauge to be accurate. The temp switch is at the coldest part of the cooling system so it makes sense to me that the engine itself gets pretty hot before the fan kicks on. Admittedly I have a different engine and an e36 radiator, but for reference the head temperature (reading data from the ECU) on my car is about 210 when the fan kicks on with a 91C switch (61311364272).

                  1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                    Nick_08
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                    #543

                    From the factory, the aux fan on the e30 is wired through relay k1. The temp switch AND the A/C button can turn on the aux fan by applying 12V to the K1 relay. If you turn A/C button on, the fan automatically runs too (vice-versa with the temperature switch). Something doesn't seem to add up with the switch and the temp gauge. As others have stated, find the real operating temp and go from there. -Nick (Nice car BTW!)

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                    • straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwrS
                      straight6pwr
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #544

                      well the journey of this car will be wrapping up next year. as i pull the car into the garage for the season, it's with the intent to fix a couple things over the winter and post it for sale in the spring.  wanted to say it out loud to help make the idea real.

                      I'm finding myself drawn to other hobbies instead of the car. Also, I'm getting weary of maintaining 1 bazillion motorized appliances. The list has grown and needs to shrink somewhere.

                      Dan
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                      • RekpointR
                        RekpointR
                        Rekpoint
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                        #545

                        straight6pwr said:

                        well the journey of this car will be wrapping up next year. as i pull the car into the garage for the season, it's with the intent to fix a couple things over the winter and post it for sale in the spring.  wanted to say it out loud to help make the idea real.

                        I'm finding myself drawn to other hobbies instead of the car. Also, I'm getting weary of maintaining 1 bazillion motorized appliances. The list has grown and needs to shrink somewhere.

                        DONT YOU DARE!

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                        • B
                          B
                          B C
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #546

                          It makes sense. The car hobby is a fulfilling one but in a lifetime of limited resources, it can be a hog.

                          Just maintaining 3 reliable vehicles is a chore in itself.

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #547

                            straight6pwr said:

                            I'm finding myself drawn to other hobbies instead of the car. Also, I'm getting weary of maintaining 1 bazillion motorized appliances.

                            This makes sense.  You've done a nice job with the car thus far!  It's hard to maintain a level of interest in multiple hobbies when time and money are finite for most of us.

                            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
                            93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                            BMWCCA #473306

                            Instagram @patsbimmer1

                            AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                            "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                            • YoungCRY
                              YoungCRY
                              YoungCR
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                              #548

                              I'm jealous of your woodworking projects and you're more sane then I am to make these decisions. Don't be a stranger once this car flies the coop.

                              Chris Young
                              BMWCCA #458972
                              1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #549

                                Rekpoint said:

                                DONT YOU DARE!

                                i do dare dude

                                B C said:

                                It makes sense. The car hobby is a fulfilling one but in a lifetime of limited resources, it can be a hog.

                                Just maintaining 3 reliable vehicles is a chore in itself.

                                i will still be car hobbying, just on a limited basis. an engine tune or set of wheels here or there. but one vehicle for me only. i've been driving the volvo a lot even in the summer,  sometimes even choosing it over the e30 for the turbo noises.  

                                patsbimmer1 said:

                                This makes sense.  You've done a nice job with the car thus far!  It's hard to maintain a level of interest in multiple hobbies when time and money are finite for most of us.

                                thanks! 

                                YoungCR said:

                                I'm jealous of your woodworking projects and you're more sane then I am to make these decisions. Don't be a stranger once this car flies the coop. 

                                sane = overly pragmatic.  i try not to cross the line from sensible to boring, but i definitely do sometimes, lol.  

                                I get more joy from the home projects since it makes two people happy (me and the wife) and more people get to enjoy it (friends and family). plus, hobby time all year means a nice, warm, well lit, indoor shop space.

                                Dan
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                                • patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1
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                                  #550

                                  straight6pwr said:

                                  I get more joy from the home projects since it makes two people happy (me and the wife) and more people get to enjoy it (friends and family). plus, hobby time all year means a nice, warm, well lit, indoor shop space

                                  Happy wife, happy life is a myth.  You've already figured it out.  Doing something for other that also brings you joy is far more rewarding.  I will most definitely sit and watch woodworking and cooking shows on PBS when I have the time.  Skilled woodworking is amazing to me!  The way they fly through building hidden joints and chiseling out perfect dovetail joints is just nuts.

                                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                  95 325is *sold*
                                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                  BMWCCA #473306

                                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                  • straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwrS
                                    straight6pwr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #551

                                    patsbimmer1 said:

                                    Happy wife, happy life is a myth.  You've already figured it out.  Doing something for other that also brings you joy is far more rewarding.  I will most definitely sit and watch woodworking and cooking shows on PBS when I have the time.  Skilled woodworking is amazing to me!  The way they fly through building hidden joints and chiseling out perfect dovetail joints is just nuts.

                                    yeah, those guys have so much patience. 'fly through' is a TV trick, that shit takes forever.  they are akin to car builders who polish every nut and bolt. yeah, its cool for your social media accounts, but is it really worth the time? i design my projects to avoid joinery LOL.

                                    Dan
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                                    • m42b32M
                                      m42b32M
                                      m42b32
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #552

                                      straight6pwr said:

                                      I get more joy from the home projects since it makes two people happy (me and the wife) and more people get to enjoy it (friends and family). plus, hobby time all year means a nice, warm, well lit, indoor shop space.

                                      I totally understand this and can respect the decision to move on to other things. I'll be sad to see it go!

                                      1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                        gilber33
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                                        #553

                                        straight6pwr said:

                                        i will still be car hobbying, just on a limited basis. an engine tune or set of wheels here or there. but one vehicle for me only. i've been driving the volvo a lot even in the summer,  sometimes even choosing it over the e30 for the turbo noises.  

                                        So you will be down to just the V50 as far as car hobbying goes? 

                                        It's an interesting sentiment to read as I have the option of picking up another "fun" car in the spring if I want to. But I have a constant internal debate if I want to spend the time, energy, and dollars maintaining three cars of my own. I think it helps puts things into perspective hearing it from other car people that you don't need a car hoard to be a car enthusiast and there are more important things in life besides cars.

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                                        • patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #554

                                          gilber33 said:

                                          and there are more important things in life besides cars. 

                                          Man, I was with you up until this point. This is blasphemous! 

                                          *please hear the sarcasm in my font*

                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                          BMWCCA #473306

                                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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