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Another daily driver thread: E34 525i

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  • straight6pwrS
    straight6pwrS
    straight6pwr
    wrote on last edited by
    #73

    P_Roloff said:

    Too late, just installed it.

    I'm not too concerned, I have the exact same setup in the e30 for the auxiliary input and it works fine. In reality the cord doesn't get reoved enough to make it an issue, and I've never had issues with the plate popping out in normal use. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a different solution, though. Perhaps something with the OEM auxiliary input/usb charger for the newer cars? Not sure if it would fit, but would be cool to make work.

    e30 blank does not equal e34 blank. the e30 one has tabs on 4 sides, the e34 has tabs only on top and bottom. I hope it works for you!

    Dan
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    • P_RoloffP
      P_RoloffP
      P_Roloff
      wrote on last edited by
      #74

      straight6pwr said:

      e30 blank does not equal e34 blank. the e30 one has tabs on 4 sides, the e34 has tabs only on top and bottom. I hope it works for you! 

      You’re right, now that I think about it. Oh well, if it causes issues I’ll come up with something else I suppose.

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      • B
        B
        B C
        wrote on last edited by
        #75

        Very nicely done!

        I added a headphone input to the M3. It really allows you to tolerate the limitations of the older stock head unit.

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        • P_RoloffP
          P_RoloffP
          P_Roloff
          wrote on last edited by
          #76

          Decided to go a different way on the wheel front! Going to run them as-is with the older tires on there for a little while. Haven't decided for sure whether I'm going to repaint the lips back to silver like they should be, but I really like that look. Either way, I'll be figuring out something for a BMW center cap like shown in the third photo.

          Long shot, but has anyone heard whether the reproduction fiberglass throwing star covers seen on Ebay and various forums are any good at all? They're around $300 a set, I don't think I can bring myself to cough up the dough for the real ones. I'm normally not one for fake stuff, but man are those things pricey. 

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          • ChrisOC
            ChrisOC
            ChrisO
            wrote on last edited by
            #77

            I have oem e34 m5 bumpers and skirts 👀

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            • P_RoloffP
              P_RoloffP
              P_Roloff
              wrote on last edited by
              #78

              ChrisO said:

              I have oem e34 m5 bumpers and skirts 👀

              I thought you were going to keep them for a future project?

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              • m42b32M
                m42b32M
                m42b32
                wrote on last edited by
                #79

                Realized I never commented on this... M-systems are probably in my top 3 favorite OEM wheels, nice find! those are going to look fantastic! I actually really like the no-cover look you posted with a center cap

                1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                • P_RoloffP
                  P_RoloffP
                  P_Roloff
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                  #80

                  m42b32 said:

                  Realized I never commented on this... M-systems are probably in my top 3 favorite OEM wheels, nice find! those are going to look fantastic! I actually really like the no-cover look you posted with a center cap

                  Thanks, I do too! Dresses it up just enough for a relatively stock car.

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                  • RekpointR
                    RekpointR
                    Rekpoint
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                    #81

                    These seem to be your best bet for replacement throwing stars. As they are not made from fiberglass.

                    https://www.classiceuroparts.com/product/bmw-e31-e34-m5-m-system-throwing-star-cover-style-21-wheel-cap-set-of-4-pcs/

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                    • P_RoloffP
                      P_RoloffP
                      P_Roloff
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #82

                      I haven’t been very good about updates, but a few things have happened since the last post, thought I might as well update for record keeping purposes.

                      Finally took care of the rear license plate mounting situation, the P.O. had it attached using two mismatched self-tapping screws, one of which had been overtightened and stripped the plastic grommet out. Ordered four new grommets and screws from FCP, and voila, no more annoying rattle when closing the trunk. It’s the little things.

                      I also got the m-systems bolted up and took some pictures, even with old tires the increase in handling sharpness and overall grip was miles better than before. Unfortunately, the car also developed a tendency to tramline that I wasn’t really expecting. Tightening the steering column nut helped some, but I think some adjustment of the steering box or replacement of some parts may be necessary to get rid of the problem, or at least reduce it. Input from other e34 owners would be greatly appreciated on this one. 
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                      The lower profile tires also exacerbated a noise that I believe to be caused by the sway bar links, those will be replaced as soon as the parts show up.

                      Also want to give a shoutout to @Jdesign for his help dismounting the tires and ensuring the wheels are true, they’re now ready for refinishing and I’m happy to report they’re as straight as an arrow. I’m finishing up a prototype design for a 3D printed center cap as I type this, and will share results after I test it. 

                      I was also lucky enough to spend 5 days in northern Minnesota just after school ended with some family, I’ll probably post some more photos but this was one of the fish my dad caught on the second night, a 27” walleye. The wild part was that wasn’t even the biggest one caught that day in our group, it was quite an experience. 
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                      • m42b32M
                        m42b32M
                        m42b32
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #83

                        Looks great!

                        Tires can have a big effect on tramlining as well

                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                        • P_RoloffP
                          P_RoloffP
                          P_Roloff
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #84

                          m42b32 said:

                          Looks great!

                          Tires can have a big effect on tramlining as well

                          Yeah, I did read that. Slightly narrower (225/45r17) pilot super sports are going on to replace the old Yokohama’s, I’m hoping that makes a difference too.

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #85

                            Wow that's a great looking walleye!

                            2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
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                            • m42b32M
                              m42b32M
                              m42b32
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #86

                              P_Roloff said:

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                              Tires on backwards by chance? Hard to tell for sure from the picture but that could have an effect on tramlining too

                              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                              • straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwrS
                                straight6pwr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #87

                                P_Roloff said:

                                Input from other e34 owners would be greatly appreciated on this one.

                                give up now? lol I replaced basically every component in the e34 steering (besides the steering box, itself) and it still wasnt perfect. always chased my tail on that.

                                tramlining, specifically, is caused by something loose, i.e. worn ball joint or bushing. the wheel is allowed to move out of alignment from the rut in the road, even with the steering wheel held in place. anything in the front suspension with a joint is in question.

                                also, nice eye! sounds like a great fishing trip.

                                Dan
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                                • patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1P
                                  patsbimmer1
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #88

                                  m42b32 said:

                                  Tires on backwards by chance? Hard to tell for sure from the picture but that could have an effect on tramlining too

                                  Backwards tire could cause noise or potentially improper or accelerated wear but couldn't cause a wander like he's describing.  

                                  I'd suggest taking the tires to someone with a road force balancer and have them straight track the tires. This will diagnose a tire issue if it exists and they'll be able to tell you which position to mount them in to avoid and minimize pull or wandering.  If that comes back good then @straight6pwr is most likely correct that it's a loose suspension part.  Strut, balljoint, tie rod, etc. You pick and it can cause this concern.

                                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                  95 325is *sold*
                                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                  BMWCCA #473306

                                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                  • patsbimmer1P
                                    patsbimmer1P
                                    patsbimmer1
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #89

                                    Also, you're probably on the right track with a narrower tire helping. Wider tires are more prone to this phenomenon.  I just dealt with a dealer who had a customer that put his first set of 35's on his stock truck and had the issue. They road forced, inspected, etc and eventually went back to the stock size per my recommendation and it fixed it.

                                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                    95 325is *sold*
                                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                    BMWCCA #473306

                                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                    • P_RoloffP
                                      P_RoloffP
                                      P_Roloff
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #90

                                      m42b32 said:

                                      Tires on backwards by chance? Hard to tell for sure from the picture but that could have an effect on tramlining too

                                      Yes, they were mounted backwards (I know, dumb on my part) but I swapped them to the correct direction and it only had an effect on road noise.

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                                      • P_RoloffP
                                        P_RoloffP
                                        P_Roloff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #91

                                        patsbimmer1 said:

                                        Wow that's a great looking walleye!

                                        It definitely was! The one my grandpa caught was about an inch shorter but probably a half pound to a pound heavier, it was an absolute tank. I caught a 22 incher on the last day, never thought I would consider that small haha. Three of the four filets from my dad and grandpas fish fed five adults with leftovers!

                                        straight6pwr said:

                                        give up now? lol I replaced basically every component in the e34 steering (besides the steering box, itself) and it still wasnt perfect. always chased my tail on that.

                                        also, nice eye! sounds like a great fishing trip.

                                        Yeah, that’s kinda what I figure it’s going to take to totally get rid of. It’s not horrible by any means, just a little surprising if you haven’t experienced it before or don’t know to expect it. There’s a bit of slop that can be felt in the steering so the first check will be the steering box itself, and I’ll do the adjustment on it. I’ll see if anything is visibly worn or loose and go from there I guess. And yeah, it definitely was! I can’t wait to go back.

                                        patsbimmer1 said:

                                        I'd suggest taking the tires to someone with a road force balancer and have them straight track the tires. This will diagnose a tire issue if it exists and they'll be able to tell you which position to mount them in to avoid and minimize pull or wandering. 

                                        I’ll definitely do this when the pilots get mounted, thanks for the advice!

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                                        • straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwrS
                                          straight6pwr
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #92

                                          P_Roloff said:

                                          Yeah, that’s kinda what I figure it’s going to take to totally get rid of. It’s not horrible by any means, just a little surprising if you haven’t experienced it before or don’t know to expect it. There’s a bit of slop that can be felt in the steering so the first check will be the steering box itself, and I’ll do the adjustment on it. I’ll see if anything is visibly worn or loose and go from there I guess. And yeah, it definitely was! I can’t wait to go back.

                                          the most likely causes: 

                                          if you feel the tramlining/extra vibrations over bumps under heavy braking = upper (thrust) control arm bushings are bad. try stabbing the brakes over some railroad tracks or some bumpy road section and see how bad it feels. 

                                          if you only get the tramlining over bumps = pitman arm has play or tie rod ball joints. both are easy to diagnose. jack one front wheel up and try and wiggle it in and out and watch for play. for the pitman arm, if it is worn you can push it up and down.(not side to side) 

                                          generally, the adjustment of the steering box only improves the vagueness at the center of steering

                                          Dan
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