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The One That Didn't Get Away [100K Mile E30 325is]

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  • m42b32M
    m42b32M
    m42b32
    wrote on last edited by
    #87

    KaiserRolls said:

    Orrrrrrrr, k24 swap it & add cams. Better weight balance, more power, wasn’t brought to the US on the mayflower, etc. 

    reading this for 245hp makes my wallet cry 

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    /roastme

    I honestly wonder what the cost difference would really be between building the M20 already in your car vs swapping a K24. The adapter plate is like $1500 alone.

    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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    • HipMFH
      HipMFH
      HipMF
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      Oil pump location on the K motor is right in the middle of the subframe on an e21/e30. Not that it can't be done, but it's not pretty and there is some fabrication involved.

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      • SteelBlueS
        SteelBlueS
        SteelBlue
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        #89

        I'd rather stay with the M20 platform at this point.

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        • KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRollsK
          KaiserRolls
          wrote on last edited by
          #90

          HipMF said:

          Oil pump location on the K motor is right in the middle of the subframe on an e21/e30. Not that it can't be done, but it's not pretty and there is some fabrication involved.

          Luckily kmiata exists and takes the headache out of the swap. The e30 k swap is much simpler than the Miata k swap.

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          • KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRollsK
            KaiserRolls
            wrote on last edited by
            #91

            SteelBlue said:

            I'd rather stay with the M20 platform at this point.

            My original point was with the time/cost you’ll sink into a high strung 3.1L m20 would probably be close to putting a k in. Not to say the K is a cheap swap, but neither is building a motor. 
             

            that being said my vote would still be do whatever you want because a high strung stroker m20 sounds sweet

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            • RekpointR
              RekpointR
              Rekpoint
              wrote on last edited by
              #92

              I vote m20 stroker because it is OEM + and I am all for OEM +

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              • SteelBlueS
                SteelBlueS
                SteelBlue
                wrote on last edited by
                #93

                KaiserRolls said:

                My original point was with the time/cost you’ll sink into a high strung 3.1L m20 would probably be close to putting a k in. Not to say the K is a cheap swap, but neither is building a motor. 
                 

                that being said my vote would still be do whatever you want because a high strung stroker m20 sounds sweet 
                 

                Completely understand, it would definitely be a pricey build. I very much like the idea of retaining the M20, while being a modified variant, would adhere to the vast majority of maintenance, repairs, and trouble shooting sequences for a normal M20 

                Rekpoint said:

                I vote m20 stroker because it is OEM + and I am all for OEM +

                I agree.

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                • patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1
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                  #94

                  m42b32 said:

                  With a car as clean and low mileage as yours I'd definitely be inclined to keep the original engine. There is absolutely no shame in liking an M20, they're pretty hard to hate! I'd love one to play around with again at some point. 

                  I totally agree that M20's (and the M30) are some of the best sounding BMW engines too, anything newer has absolutely nothing on them. 

                  The M30 is one of my favorite engines and I would absolutely buy a 535i just because of that but I also take exception to that last sentence...

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                  BMWCCA #473306

                  Instagram @patsbimmer1

                  AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #95

                    patsbimmer1 said:

                    The M30 is one of my favorite engines and I would absolutely buy a 535i just because of that but I also take exception to that last sentence...

                    I'm glad to see the  boat anchor is still going strong in this group!

                    I think doing any engine swap on this car is dumb.
                    It is a low mileage, low owner vehicle. While I do believe you should enjoy the vehicles you buy, I think if you wanted to build something swapped I would sell this one and build it off the profits.

                    ...

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                    • RekpointR
                      RekpointR
                      Rekpoint
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #96

                      GunMetalGrey said:

                      I'm glad to see the  boat anchor is still going strong in this group!

                      I think doing any engine swap on this car is dumb.
                      It is a low mileage, low owner vehicle. While I do believe you should enjoy the vehicles you buy, I think if you wanted to build something swapped I would sell this one and build it off the profits. 

                      Technically he does have another shell

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #97

                        Rekpoint said:

                        Technically he does have another shell 

                        Correct
                        Though that thing has been bouncing around like a bad case of VD. 
                        Not that I helped the situation any!

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                        • SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlueS
                          SteelBlue
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #98

                          Here's my YouTube click baity post of the week. Going to be picking up something for the car in Madison this weekend that I kind of fell backwards into. Something I've wanted for a long time, and, even appears to be the same color as my car. Also a great deal that I couldn't pass up.

                          Insert capitalized words and exclamation points where you see fit.

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                          • HipMFH
                            HipMFH
                            HipMF
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                            • B
                              B
                              B C
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                              Please let it be this Cadillac Service Manual!!!!!

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                              • m42b32M
                                m42b32M
                                m42b32
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #101

                                patsbimmer1 said:

                                The M30 is one of my favorite engines and I would absolutely buy a 535i just because of that but I also take exception to that last sentence...

                                I was thinking 6 cylinder engines. Anything v8 isn't a fair comparison haha

                                1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                • SteelBlueS
                                  SteelBlueS
                                  SteelBlue
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #102

                                  Did the LED light conversion kit on the car today. Just the interior, trunk, and number plate ones. Was able to do one number plate light as one of the screw heads was completely rusted. Was doing this at my house so didn’t have access to all my tools. Getting the license plate light on my check panel, not sure if this because there is a halogen and LED, or because the LED doesn’t register with the car. Had the same thing happen on my E46. Considering switch back because the light on the panel bothers me.

                                  Interior dome lights are a little surgical for my liking, but do a much better job lighting the car. For the minimal amount of time they are on, it’s fine. The ash tray ones I wasn’t able to change as the LED stalk was too big for socket.

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                                  • SteelBlueS
                                    SteelBlueS
                                    SteelBlue
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                                    TLDR:

                                    I bought an E28 M5 spoiler. Believe it's the same color as my car.

                                    Full, but quite the experience, story:

                                    With not a lot to do during quarantine, been doing a lot of online window shopping for things for the E30. Found one of those "I have parts for *inset car here*, just ask me what you're looking for" type Craigslist ads. I figured why not just see what he might have, was just looking for unique/rare little bits to add to the car. He knew a guy who was selling an E28 M5 spoiler, but it was a little more than what I wanted to pay(reasonably priced for the part, just more than what I wanted to spend at the moment). Conversation stopped, but he ended up texting me like a week later saying that he actually did have one, just found it when he was going through some of his stuff. The insert was red, but was hard to tell from the pictures if it was the same red as my car. It had some blemishes, so he told me to make him an offer. I threw out a pretty low number in comparison to what these usually go for and to my surprise he accepted it. Told him I could come down Saturday and pick it up.

                                    Saturday 5/16: Drive down to Middleton. I took a look at his address on Google maps before heading out. Looked like a small farm out in the country, so wasn't sure what to expect when getting there. Turns out the Google maps images were old, because at the end of his long, hilly driveway were two, large, brand new metal buildings. First one was in the shape of typical shop, probably 80x80 if I had to guess, and about 20 some feet tall. First car in the door was an E36 M3 on a lift, next to it was an Oldsmobile(not sure the model, 60s Camaro shaped), and next to that was Diamond Schwarz E30 M3.

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                                    Unfortunately, this was the only picture that I took. Never seen one on Borbet type A's, but I like it. Above the car, you can see there is a loft with a ton of parts on it(as you can, there's also a motorcycle up there lol). He had like 4 M-Tech 1 wheels, Momo wheels, new old stock S38 valve cover, euro E28 interior pieces, misc E30 pieces, etc. Just tons of stuff, all of which I took a look over. On the wall behind where I took this picture, there is another loft. Had E30 and E28 hoods, doors, trunks, windows, bumpers, etc. One caught my eye that I couldn't determine which it was. Turns out it was a euro M-Tech 1 bumper that he checked as a bag on flight from Germany...

                                    So this building was divided in two parts(you can see the wall behind the E30). The door was open between the two and saw something through that I had never seen and had no idea what it was. We take a walk through and I felt like I was transported to the Peterson Museum. There were four 4 post lifts on one wall and two on the other wall, both had cars on top and below them. Two BMW 2000 CS's, two Auto Union badged Audi's that I had never seen before, a wood panel Willy's Wagon, a Nissan S-Cargo, Oldsmobile 88, old Germany military motorcycles, other old motorcycles from manufactures I had never heard of before, and probably 8 other cars.

                                    The second building had 5 double wide garage doors spanning the length of building and was probably 30-40' deep. Once again, walk in the door and feel like I'm in Bruce Canepa's or Bruce Myer's garage. I'm looking over a sea of what had to be like 40 cars, most of things that I could vaguely recognize or had no idea what I was looking at. There was his E28 M5 a Messerschmitt car, the classic amphibious car, old VW looking wagons but were made by someone else, that weird electric car where the whole body folds on clam shell mechanism, and 30 other old German and other foreign cars. Both of the buildings have epoxy sealed floors, insulated walls, incredible LED lighting, and are climate controlled.

                                    It was overwhelming(in a great way), because the last thing I was expecting to find in the hills of Middleton was this incredible car collection in these amazing buildings. The M5 spoiler was honestly an after thought in all of this. We grabbed it after 20 minutes of talking and it sat on a bench until we were done walking around the rest of the buildings.

                                    These kind of finds are the things dreams are made of. The guy couldn't have been nicer and was really a BMW nerd. I think we were there for like an hour. I don't think I'll ever have a better Craigslist transaction experience in my life. This was completely stream of conscious typing, so it's possible I'm leaving things out.

                                    Anyway, the spoiler. In pretty good condition, definitely is worth a lot more than what I paid for it. Has a couple of chips on the ends I should be able to fix. The paint was pretty hazy, so I started to polish it to see if I could get a better idea of the color. I had an old pad that I used on the car, so I couldn't get a good cut or polish. From what I was able to do, I think it's the same color as my car, or very close to it. Very stoked on it, think it's gonna look great on the car.

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                                    • B
                                      B
                                      B C
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                                      #104

                                      Having a personal museum of cars always seems like a great fantasy but then I remember how tedious it is to keep just 1 car clean and maintained.

                                      Nice find!

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                                      • patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1P
                                        patsbimmer1
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                                        #105

                                        I love those finds where the story is better than the purchase.

                                        2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                        07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                        97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                        95 325is *sold*
                                        93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                        BMWCCA #473306

                                        Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                        AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                        "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                        • SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlueS
                                          SteelBlue
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                                          #106

                                          Polished the insert and hit the rubber part with a coat of paint. Cleaned up pretty well. Needs to fix a couple spots on the insert before it’s complete.

                                          Drilled holes in the trunk lid for the studs. It was hard to gauge how the spoiler would fit without being able to lay it flat on the trunk lid. Came out well, still need to drill or cut a hole on the underside of the trunk lid to access the far outside screws. I think I might use a combination of some double sided tape and foam tape(not exactly foam tape, but something of that nature) to close the gap at the ends. Guess will see how much the far studs will suck it closer to the lid with nuts on them. You can see how I tried to get the gap that ran the length of the trunk tighter. As a result of this, the radius of the spoiler leaves somewhat of a gap at the ends.

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