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    gilber33
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    The car has been running great for the most part. One nagging thing has been about once every other week I’d get home with an empty PS reservoir. I always thought maybe there’s a large bubble in the system since I completely drained it. 
     

    Confirmed today that’s not the case. 

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    Pried one of the boots away from the steering rack and it was so full of fluid that it squirted out. It was under pressure. 
     

    Both seals are clearly blown out. Really disappointed with Rack Doctor. Will give them a call tomorrow but I can’t put on of their racks back in my car. I don’t trust them anymore. Will go with OE rebuilt unit from FCP.

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    • SteelBlueS
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      SteelBlue
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      Sucks, but good to know.

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      • RekpointR
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        Rekpoint
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        gilber33 said:

        The car has been running great for the most part. One nagging thing has been about once every other week I’d get home with an empty PS reservoir. I always thought maybe there’s a large bubble in the system since I completely drained it. 
         

        Confirmed today that’s not the case. 

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        Pried one of the boots away from the steering rack and it was so full of fluid that it squirted out. It was under pressure. 
         

        Both seals are clearly blown out. Really disappointed with Rack Doctor. Will give them a call tomorrow but I can’t put on of their racks back in my car. I don’t trust them anymore. Will go with OE rebuilt unit from FCP. 

        Ive heard really good things about rack doctor. Id give them a second chance.

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        • m42b32M
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          m42b32
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          #918

          gilber33 said:

          The car has been running great for the most part. One nagging thing has been about once every other week I’d get home with an empty PS reservoir. I always thought maybe there’s a large bubble in the system since I completely drained it. 
           

          Confirmed today that’s not the case. 

          58FA65DF-0796-4247-9B26-1174251C8BCD.jpeg

          Pried one of the boots away from the steering rack and it was so full of fluid that it squirted out. It was under pressure. 
           

          Both seals are clearly blown out. Really disappointed with Rack Doctor. Will give them a call tomorrow but I can’t put on of their racks back in my car. I don’t trust them anymore. Will go with OE rebuilt unit from FCP. 

          Major bummer... I've always heard really good things about them, hopefully they remedy the situation!

          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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            B C
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            #919

            That is obnoxious.

            Are you running ATF or clear PS fluid?

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              gilber33
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              B C said:

              That is obnoxious.

              Are you running ATF or clear PS fluid?

              I’m running dex3 atf or whatever number  it is that bmw requires.

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                gilber33
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                They're sending me out a new rack tomorrow. The guy there highly recommended against using synthetic dexIII ATF and suspects that was the issue. I just was used what the internets said to use. 
                 

                Anyways, on a more positive note. My wife ditched the XC90 for a 2021 VW Atlas with the second row captain seats. They are a game changer for hauling three kids. 
                 

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                  B C
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                  Interesting. I siphoned and refilled my reservoir over the weekend and it doesn't feel quite right. Could just be a tiny bit of air that needs to work itself out, but I am using Maxlife ATF. I like the Maxlife because the seal conditioners really seem to help reduce leaks in past experiences but if the “air”/lack of smoothness  doesnt resolve itself I may try non-synthetic ATF

                  Atlas seems cool 👍🏼

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                  • KaiserRollsK
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                    KaiserRolls
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                    gilber33 said:

                    They're sending me out a new rack tomorrow. The guy there highly recommended against using synthetic dexIII ATF and suspects that was the issue. I just was used what the internets said to use. 
                     

                    Anyways, on a more positive note. My wife ditched the XC90 for a 2021 VW Atlas with the second row captain seats. They are a game changer for hauling three kids. 
                     

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                    What did he suggest to use for fluid

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                      gilber33
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                      KaiserRolls said:

                      What did he suggest to use for fluid

                      To still use dex3 atf - but not synthetic.

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                      • m42b32M
                        m42b32M
                        m42b32
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                        gilber33 said:

                        To still use dex3 atf - but not synthetic. 

                        Interesting... I put synthetic in my car and my rack with allegedly 60k miles started leaking within a year.

                        1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                        • KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRollsK
                          KaiserRolls
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                          #926

                          gilber33 said:

                          To still use dex3 atf - but not synthetic. 

                          Me going downstairs after reading this to check what I bought from oriellys

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                            gilber33
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                            m42b32 said:

                            Interesting... I put synthetic in my car and my rack with allegedly 60k miles started leaking within a year. 

                            He said the synthetic fluids usually have an stop-leak additive to it. And he said this is fine in transmissions because most of the seals are either sandwiched between aluminum plates or have a metal component to the seal. So as they swell, they get to a point where they can't swell anymore and they stay there. In the steering rack, the seals don't have that, so they swell and continue to swell until they blow out. And he said once one side blows out, the fluid will travel through the gear to the other side and ultimately you get leaks at both ends. He said this is an ongoing issue and have been getting a lot of racks back  that they suspect is because of this.

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                              gilber33
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                              New rack is in and I don’t have any power steering. 😑

                              I used a Dex/Merc fluid instead of a DexVI because I read people used that with good results. Even if the fluid was subpar, I can’t imagine I would have zero PS. 

                              Maybe the pump is dead. It ran on several occasions dry because I didn’t know it was empty. I also noticed when I started the car in the air to bleed the PS system, the pump didn’t wine at all. Usually it has a few wines as you go lock to lock and get the system filled up.

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                                jc43089
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                                I think everyone is overthinking the fluid type.  I've used Redline power steering fluid for a long time in many BMWs and other cars with no issues.  It is a high end synthetic, but is also labeled only for power steering so maybe different additives?

                                The pump won't last long without fluid, they are a rotary vane pump.  I would recommend finding a ZF pump and rebuilding it before you install it.  I've done one and it isn't hard, then you won't have to deal with more leaks later.

                                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
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                                  gilber33
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                                  jc43089 said:

                                  I think everyone is overthinking the fluid type.  I've used Redline power steering fluid for a long time in many BMWs and other cars with no issues.  It is a high end synthetic, but is also labeled only for power steering so maybe different additives?

                                  The pump won't last long without fluid, they are a rotary vane pump.  I would recommend finding a ZF pump and rebuilding it before you install it.  I've done one and it isn't hard, then you won't have to deal with more leaks later.

                                  I'm sure I'm very well overthinking it. Redline PS fluid was another I saw other people using. I replaced the Vickers setup with a ZF pump when I first go the car, so I will look for a replacement ZF pump and rebuild kit. 

                                  Oddly enough last night as I was about to pull the car in the garage for the night the PS started working again, decided to take it for another test drive just to see, and I made it half a block before it stopped working again. Since the steering rack is so mechanical in nature, I'm pretty confident the pump is dead. 

                                  After driving around my wife's 2021 Atlas for a while and not having driven the BMW, I forget how noisy and old sounding the cars are. haha

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                                    gilber33
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                                    The new pump seems to have fixed it. Will confirm after a test drive. 
                                     

                                    In other news, we started a pretty significant home renovation project this week. Going from a small 2 bed / 1.5 bath home to a 4 bed / 2.5 bath home. We bought the house knowing if we were to stay here we’d have to add on at some point. After buying some land from our neighbor to give us about 1/3 acre and being three blocks from downtown Cedarburg, we knew this is were we wanted to stay. So, here we go. Digging for the new basement started today. 
                                     

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                                    Although bedrooms and bathrooms for all five of us (eventually six of us) is fantastic, my favorite perk is that the garage becomes my workshop. I’m already in the process of cleaning it up to make it my own space.

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                                    • KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRollsK
                                      KaiserRolls
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                                      Leave it as is for lake front property

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                                        gilber33
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                                        KaiserRolls said:

                                        Leave it as is for lake front property 

                                        Yeah. Apparently the water table is pretty high here. 😑

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                                          gilber33
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                                          I’ve been driving it to work for the past couple weeks and the power steering seems to be fine. I bought one of those home alignment kits with the plates and tape measures and got pretty close to a good alignment. Needs some real minor adjustment. But all in all, it’s been very enjoyable! 
                                           

                                          The night mode on the new iPhone seems to work pretty okay. Have some condensation in one of the headlights, so I’ll have to pull that out and reseal it. Save that for this winter or something.

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                                          We also have some basement walls at our house!

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