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the one and only e30 s52 engine swap

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    #51

    Drill clearance holes in the baffle for the main studs

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    • AsparagusMikeA
      AsparagusMikeA
      AsparagusMike
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      #52

      Snap said:

      Drill clearance holes in the baffle for the main studs

      Ding Ding Ding!

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      • AsparagusMikeA
        AsparagusMikeA
        AsparagusMike
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        So progress on the motor has been slim, got a few things done here and there, still waiting on the cylinder head from the machinist (losing my patience though)

        Last Friday I and a friend stopped by the junk yard to go scavenging around and while I was out there I was surprisingly able to round up the last of what I needed for my obd1 conversion including...

        obd1 throttle body

        Oem MAF sensor

        obd1 fuel rail

        obd1 valve cover

        6 coil packs

        obd1 intake manifold ( yup I know I already have one that I had plans to repaint or bring back but the one I found on an e34 was in pretty amazing shape and I couldn't pass it up, still planning on re doing the manifold I have though)

        Vanos solenoid off an e34 m50, read up that I will need this as the wire is longer vs. the obd2 solenoid.

        One quick question for the obd1 sensors I will be needing...Should I go all genuine bmw parts for those? I honestly really don't want to spend close to $400 on 5 sensors, there's also a m50 out in the junk yard with 220,000 miles but its got all the sensors I need and in good condition, just looking for recommendations here. Thx!

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          Crank and cam sensors, yes get BMW OEM. This is based on both personal experiences and many posts of newer non-OE sensors failing within the year or providing poor starting/cutting out at high rpm.

          I always keep spare fuel pump relay, dme relay, and crank sensor with me in the car just in case. You could chance it with the junkyard sensors and get extras to keep in the car as spares and replace them with new OE units when its more convenient, just an idea. Temp sensors are just fine to go with non-OE

          Oxygen sensor: definitely bosch, or if you for some reason have a hatred for bosch, get NTK at a bare minimum but nothing else. These old style narrowbands are pretty cheap as it is.

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          • KaiserRollsK
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            Agreed with OEM sensors

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            • AsparagusMikeA
              AsparagusMikeA
              AsparagusMike
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              #56

              Snap said:

              Crank and cam sensors, yes get BMW OEM. This is based on both personal experiences and many posts of newer non-OE sensors failing within the year or providing poor starting/cutting out at high rpm.

              I always keep spare fuel pump relay, dme relay, and crank sensor with me in the car just in case. You could chance it with the junkyard sensors and get extras to keep in the car as spares and replace them with new OE units when its more convenient, just an idea. Temp sensors are just fine to go with non-OE

              Oxygen sensor: definitely bosch, or if you for some reason have a hatred for bosch, get NTK at a bare minimum but nothing else. These old style narrowbands are pretty cheap as it is.

              Knock sensor? BMW or bosch? the price difference is quite a bit.

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                Is be willing to bet the Genuine BMW knock sensor is a bosch sensor with an absurd markup. I’d run the bosch ones

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                • jc43089J
                  jc43089J
                  jc43089
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                  For sensors I always use Genuine or if I know who the OE was I would buy that because it is cheaper and usually has the BMW logo ground off.  FCPEuro for the crank position sensor has Genuine for 148.99 and one listed as OEM for 64.99, and also a Meyle one for much cheaper that shows made in China.  I would for sure NOT buy the Meyle one but I would probably buy the OEM one, a review said it had a spot where a logo was ground off.  I'm not sure why they don't specify the actual brand, maybe they are requested not to?  Dunno?

                  https://www.fcpeuro.com/BMW-parts/325i/Crankshaft-Position-Sensor?year=1994&e=177&m=20&page=1

                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  • jc43089J
                    jc43089J
                    jc43089
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                    Snap said:

                    Is be willing to bet the Genuine BMW knock sensor is a bosch sensor with an absurd markup. I’d run the bosch ones

                    I would put money on that as well.  Go with the Bosch.  Much cheaper and likely the same thing.

                    https://www.fcpeuro.com/BMW-parts/325i/Knock-Sensor?year=1994&e=177&m=20&page=1

                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                    • patsbimmer1P
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                      I'll confirm.  Buy OE.  I've had too many sensors fail out of the box to buy cheap sensors anymore.

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                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
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                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #61

                        AsparagusMike said:

                        obd1 throttle body

                        Oem MAF sensor

                        obd1 fuel rail

                        obd1 valve cover

                        6 coil packs

                        One quick question for the obd1 sensors I will be needing...Should I go all genuine bmw parts for those? I honestly really don't want to spend close to $400 on 5 sensors, there's also a m50 out in the junk yard with 220,000 miles but its got all the sensors I need and in good condition, just looking for recommendations here. Thx!

                        You need to come to my 24v parts stash good sir. I'll round up the remaining stuff I have.
                        I think I have sensors (need to double check if obd)

                        I keep 24v stuff around for some reason, but now I have zero vehicles that can use it. Should really clean the shelves off lol.

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                        • AsparagusMikeA
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                          GunMetalGrey said:

                          You need to come to my 24v parts stash good sir. I'll round up the remaining stuff I have.
                          I think I have sensors (need to double check if obd)

                          I keep 24v stuff around for some reason, but now I have zero vehicles that can use it. Should really clean the shelves off lol. 

                          Alright, well if you want to throw me a text when you have time of what you got that would be sweet!

                          Here's a list of all the rest of the stuff I will be needing to have the motor ready to put in the car (or at least 98% of it)...

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                            I have the belt and I think I should have a spare set of rad hoses depending on the radiator you're using.
                            I have a set of delrin bolt thru trans mounts.
                            I had a set of e28 motor mounts floating around. I'll see if I can find them. 

                            If you need help rebuilding vanos I have done it a couple of times now, it's not complicated, and the manual for it is quite good. 

                            What flywheel are you using?

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                            • AsparagusMikeA
                              AsparagusMikeA
                              AsparagusMike
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                              GunMetalGrey said:

                              I have the belt and I think I should have a spare set of rad hoses depending on the radiator you're using.
                              I have a set of delrin bolt thru trans mounts.
                              I had a set of e28 motor mounts floating around. I'll see if I can find them. 

                              If you need help rebuilding vanos I have done it a couple of times now, it's not complicated, and the manual for it is quite good. 

                              What flywheel are you using?

                              Probably gonna do the Mishimoto e36 radiator. Delrin is a bit stiff for me, was planning on running something a bit softer like a 95a poly for the motor and trans mounts.

                              M20 flywheel

                              Where did you order your rebuild kit for your vanos from?

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                              • KaiserRollsK
                                KaiserRollsK
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                                #65

                                Don’t forget the cam sensor o ring

                                New valve cover rubber grommet things are also nice. Old ones are usually rock hard

                                FWIW I ordered beisan systems stuff as well for the vanos

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                                • AsparagusMikeA
                                  AsparagusMikeA
                                  AsparagusMike
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                                  So the other day I was experiencing some issues cleaning my ps pump. Brake cleaner just wasn't cutting it.

                                  As I have the availability to a good parts cleaner I decided I would take advantage and just rebuild the whole unit at the same time.

                                  New rebuild kit on the way, got the pump all dissembled last night...

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                                  All in all the disassembly was fairly easy. One thing that did give me shit was the little snap ring that held the shaft into the casing. Took 2 pricked fingers and a small flat head partly up my finger nail to get it out.😠

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                                  Luckily the refresh kit does come with a new ring as I did end up slightly bending this one to get it out.

                                  Things also ordered and on the way: All needed Sensors, aluminum water pump pulley, and some misc. sensor o rings. Also received my vanos seals the other day, gonna try to get to rebuilding it this weekend possibly but the rush isn't to large as I am still waiting on my frickin cylinder head to get back!

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                                  • AsparagusMikeA
                                    AsparagusMikeA
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                                    Motor is no longer in the basement!

                                    So the shop is now ready to go for the winter project. I decided that its time the motor comes out of the basement before it gains any more weight. No plan was made prior to this attempt. Simply called a friend up telling him I needed a hand with something for 10 minutes. Half hour later he showed up and we carried the thing right up the stairs. Now I'm not gonna say it was a piece of cake cause it honestly wasn't. It was still very heavy and trying to handle it while walking up the stairs backwards was as bad as it sounds. All I can say is that I'm really REALLY glad that the head was not on that thing. Not sure we would have gotten it up the stairs if it had been.

                                    As for the cylinder head, I talked with my machinist and he has been swamped with work lately and was confident that he was gonna get my head done by the end of this week so we will see.

                                    Brought the car over this last Friday! 😄

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                                    Saturday I had other items to attend to but luckily I got all that stuff finished and out of the way.

                                    This morning had a tasty breakfast and headed on over to the shop to begin tear down...

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                                    Got a pretty decent chunk of stuff done today. Almost have everything on the motor disconnected from the car except for the A/C lines and shifter linkages from the transmission underneath. I would have been able to get to the A/C today but the system still has refrigerant in it. I did talk to one of my buddy's dad on the phone today who's in HVAC and he's gonna find out tomorrow if they have a refrigerant recovery system around their shop and get back to me. As for everything else, the car seems to be looking good so far. Everything except for this...

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                                    Had to disconnect the ecu from the engine harness so Idiot me decided that I would remove the hangers from the glove box before disconnecting it from the hinge in the back. Well, when I did the box hit the floor and I heard a snap as it completely broke of the hinge. Looks like I'll be looking for another glove box.

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                                    • m42b32M
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                                      Glad you were able to get it out of the basement!

                                      I have an extra glove box in good shape if you're interested.

                                      1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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                                      • AsparagusMikeA
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                                        m42b32 said:

                                        Glad you were able to get it out of the basement!

                                        I have an extra glove box in good shape if you're interested. 

                                        I'll keep that in mind. Thx!

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                                          Mike, bad news.  I have mentally associated your username with your profile photo to the point where I think you are a 13 year old kid. So every update leaves me imagining a middle schooler wrenching on an S52.

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