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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
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    So you saved $50ish but gained lead poisoning...

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

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    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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      Dont you worry, buttercup, I wear a full Hazmat suit when I go fishing or to the gun range and I can drive my car with it too. Folks will think im the Stig!

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      • KaiserRollsK
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        It doesn't feel the same in your hand

        Phrasing?

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
          wrote on last edited by
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          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

          BMWCCA #473306

          Instagram @patsbimmer1

          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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            I received a few final pieces to finish rebuilding the oil pump. The new outer rotor has a .002" larger diameter than the old one which in itself will increase/restore pump performance substantially.

            The overpressure relief springs had an evident difference in length and stiffness . The new one being longer and stiffer and better for preventing any early bleed-off of pressure. The new o-ring was badly needed as well.

            The Achillies upgraded pump shaft comes with a bolt instead of a nut, a new sprocket (has flats instead of splines, a bmw sprocket will not work on this shaft) and safety wire.

            I also received the little cam tray dowel I needed. Lets see if I can finally get these stupid camshafts installed this weekend

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              Intake cam torqued

              Just kidding, stripped another stud.

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                I got a wave of motivation, went out and fixed the stripped threads, re-installed the cam.

                Guess what happened?

                Yep, stripped another one!

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                • EarlE
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                  So are you sure you have the proper torque specs? I don't want to seem like I'm second guessing you but I find it very hard to believe that they would put a torque spec that dangerously close to the yield of that thread in aluminum.

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                    11 foot pounds/132 inch pounds, certified calibrated torque wrench that goes from 40 to 200 inch pounds so I am right in the middle of the torque wrench capacity and everything to

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                      (Reserved for future post about stripped threads)

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                        (Reserved for future post about stripped threads)

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                          (Reserved for future post about stripped threads)

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                          • straight6pwrS
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                            (Reserved for backhanded comment about you doing torques wrong)

                            Dan
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                              No

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
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                                I want to believe you aren't doing something wrong, but I'm having a very hard time doing so. 
                                I've rebuilt many of these motors, and the only time I had a stripped thread was the small torx screws that go into the timing cover. 

                                Those cam caps are a glorified hand tight, so I don't quite see how you are having so many issues.

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                                  I've been a ding-dong many times before but I promise that in this instance I am 100% right and the cylinder head threads are 100% wrong.

                                  Mitch mentioned my torque values may be in yard-pounds [emoji23]

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                                  • i_love_carsI
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                                    Let me know when you are ready to work on this again. I will stop by and supervise to provide the final word on whether or not you are right or the cylinder head threads are.

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                                    • patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1P
                                      patsbimmer1
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                                      You know there are different tightening torques for M6, M7 and M8 bolts right?  Are you sure you don't have M6 bolts?  Those are only torqued to 7ft/lbs.

                                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                      95 325is *sold*
                                      93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                                      BMWCCA #473306

                                      Instagram @patsbimmer1

                                      AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                                      "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                                      • jc43089J
                                        jc43089J
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                                        How do you have the camshaft?  Could you take a picture of what you are doing?  I am confused (easily).  When I swapped an intake cam I had it turned so only the #1 cylinder lobes were down and tightened that cap first to compress the valve springs and my helper was holding the cam with a wrench to prevent it from turning while I installed the other caps and torqued it down.  I think I might have needed longer bolts because the studs weren't long enough to get the nuts started. and then once all of the others were installed I rotated it so there was no pressure on that spot and removed the bolts and put the studs back on.  It was a while ago and I was installing an m54b30 cam.

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                                          patsbimmer1 said:

                                          You know there are different tightening torques for M6, M7 and M8 bolts right?  Are you sure you don't have M6 bolts?  Those are only torqued to 7ft/lbs.

                                          Most definitely M7. 

                                          jc43089 said:

                                          How do you have the camshaft?  Could you take a picture of what you are doing?  I am confused (easily).  When I swapped an intake cam I had it turned so only the #1 cylinder lobes were down and tightened that cap first to compress the valve springs and my helper was holding the cam with a wrench to prevent it from turning while I installed the other caps and torqued it down.  I think I might have needed longer bolts because the studs weren't long enough to get the nuts started. and then once all of the others were installed I rotated it so there was no pressure on that spot and removed the bolts and put the studs back on.  It was a while ago and I was installing an m54b30 cam.

                                          This is exactly how I am doing it. Cyl #1 lobes are the only ones under any valve spring pressure. Bearing cap #2 is installed first with a1/4 turn on each nut until its flush with the cam tray, then all other bearing caps are installed flush, then torqued evenly (1/4 turn on each nut) until it reaches 11 ft-lbs or the threads strip, whichever comes first.

                                          At this point I am planning on having to repair every last one of them. If in some horrible nightmare I manage to start pulling-out the threads on the repaired holes, that's the point at which I will part it out, ban myself, lease a new Prius, and disappear from the car community forever.

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