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Do you run a front plate?

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    REKIII
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    patsbimmer1 said:

    I haven't been pulled over for no front plate since I started driving BMW's and I never put one on my wife's Volvo.  With my 240sx I was pulled over frequently but it was typically something that was tacked on to the exhaust ticket.

    Please don't tell me you actually believe that's how those systems work. 

    Do enlighten me, please share how laser and radar systems work.  You better fvcking say that it works with some technology other than sending a signal out to a moving object and getting the signal back then measuring the time difference between cycles.

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    • suspencefulS
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      REKIII said:

      Do enlighten me, please share how laser and radar systems work.  You better fvcking say that it works with some technology other than sending a signal out to a moving object and getting the signal back then measuring the time difference between cycles.

      I'm also curious because I was told the same thing about using the front plate to reflect radar.

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      • patsbimmer1P
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        REKIII said:

        Do enlighten me, please share how laser and radar systems work.  You better fvcking say that it works with some technology other than sending a signal out to a moving object and getting the signal back then measuring the time difference between cycles.

        It's exactly that but the doppler system used has zero reliance on the material its tracking to be effective.  Whether you have a metal plate on the front of your car has zero to do with the fact that you are driving a large object.  Now, where radar does fail is if you are driving in a close group of cars.  Radar cannot "lock on" very accurately, which again makes the idea that a small metal plate has any effect on it's efficiency ridiculous.

        LIDAR operates in a similar manner but has the ability to narrow its sight and target specific vehicles.  Again, not limited by the material its tracking.

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        • straight6pwrS
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          well, I have to agree that a front plate certainly isn't the key factor for a cop getting your speed with his gun. I've never had a front plate, but the 'radar speed signs' always know exactly how fast I drive past them. pretty conclusive evidence to me.

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          • AndrewA
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            I haven't been running a front plate on the 30, but I think this thread might be convincing me to run a front plate since at least half the people who've responded have been pulled over for it.  I don't need to be rolling probable cause.

            I just want to say that Doppler does not imply RADAR or LIDAR or any particular part of the electromagnetic system.  It's just an effect.  It is an effect that can be observed with multiple types of waves light, sound ect.  Also, a nice flat metal plate on the front of your car is probably pretty good at reflecting back a RADAR signal, probably LIDAR too.

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            • patsbimmer1P
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              patsbimmer1
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              Nobody will convince me that a license plate has any effect on radar or lidar, especially radar, where the wave is as scattered as it is.  Radar guns have no issue picking up non-metallic items such as baseballs.

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                Thats exactly why I stopped running a baseball on the front of my car. Its not worth the risk.

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                  REKIII
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                  patsbimmer1 said:

                  Nobody will convince me that a license plate has any effect on radar or lidar, especially radar, where the wave is as scattered as it is.  Radar guns have no issue picking up non-metallic items such as baseballs.

                  Wow.....the radar works best on a vertical surface, the more flat and vertical is, the faster and more precise the radar is.

                  WI cops look for the front plate and aim for that.

                  You are arguing a tiny technicality to disprove something that has been said by actual officers and Radar manufacturers.  Just because the radar will work without a front plate, doesn't mean that the police doesn't look for and use the front plate as a default.

                  You're fantasy land is pretty bad ass.

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                    Daggerty
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                    Just tape a $20 bill on the front bumper.

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                    • EarlE
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                      Earl
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                      I drove 6 hours down and 6 hours home from Clarksville, Indiana and wasn't hassled once for not having a front plate. The risk of a ticket is incredibly slim and if you do get a ticket, it is because of some other reason in the first place.

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
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                        GunMetalGrey
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                        What is this thing that you guys keep calling a "Front Plate"?

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                        • damnboy037D
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                          I threw my front plate in a bonfire

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                            reckedhim
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                            I got pulled over on I-39 near Janesville on a Friday morning as I was going to pick my dad up for his chemo appointment.  I wasn't speeding so the only reason they pulled me over was the front plate.  I think one cop may have been training the other because two came to my car, which seemed unnecessary.  I was just told to put my front plate on and they let me go.  That was the only time I've ever been stopped for it.

                            When I lived in Chicago, I got a ticket for no front plate while the car was parked on the street.  They don't seem to be that aggressive here in Madison/Wisconsin.

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