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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
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    #542

    I went through a bunch before finding one I liked.

    Overheat fixed, it burped last night and I got more air out upon startup. Drove around for 20 minutes after getting to temp with no overheat issues. Oil temps stay in check now as well, hovers around 200 degrees.

    I have a lot of little oil leaks to track down next!

    I also drove it under a bridge at WOT, man oh man.

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
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      #543

      I was gonna ask what hose you used... But then remember it wouldn't work for my car anyways because you no longer have an M20.

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      • GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGreyG
        GunMetalGrey
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        #544

        I am going to try an m20 upper rad hose soon, to see if the bend into the radiator works better for my setup. 
        I will be honest in saying that anyone that has been near it has either been more motivated to finish their current car, or edge towards an m50...
        It is only on 7psi on a crappy tune, which snap and I (more him than I....) will be improving. It still scoots real good though!

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          Rowleym
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          #545

          I really would like to see a 4th gear log once this thing is tuned! maybe 5th as well.

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          sk8 or die

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          • GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGreyG
            GunMetalGrey
            wrote on last edited by
            #546

            Here is my 4th gear log
            log.jpg

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
              wrote on last edited by
              #547

              People keep liking my post, but it's a log. It needs some more work before it is a post. 
              Some shaping and whatnot

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              • KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRollsK
                KaiserRolls
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                #548

                ClassE said:

                I was gonna ask what hose you used... But then remember it wouldn't work for my car anyways because you no longer have an M20.

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
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                  #549

                  I have the part number for the top hoes somewhere.

                  I will poast it when i find it.

                  Im just using a stock hose shortened with a stent. Yes we using medicinal terms on our hoes

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #550

                    Sometimes I feel like I went full VANOS at some points during my engine build. I had an oil leak from the passenger side of the motor. Turns out that I forgot about some of the gasket that was left on the VANOS delete cover...... Why?
                    Cleaned the old stuff off, added a dab of sealer to the new gasket and stuck it back on. I would have tested it, but I am trying out this new thing called "following directions". Seems a bit odd, but they say 24 hours to dry/set. What do I have to lose! 
                    All oil leaks have been tracked down thus far, including my alternator leaking quite a bit of oil!

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      #551

                      I get bad at updating this thread in summer. 
                      Things I have done recently:
                      Installed Rad Fan (so little room!)
                      Finished the interior
                      Added rear plate filler
                      Put the front of the car together
                      Made/got new charge pipe for the intake side
                      Moved to a new shop

                      I shall have to get some pictures and post them soon!

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                      • Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313B
                        Bassboy3313
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #552

                        for my m20 swap in my e21 I used the m42 radiator as well. I ended up buying the upper hose from what I believe to be from an e30 320i touring. Part number is 11531722217.

                        CHECK OUT >>> RAGE DRIFT DESIGNS <<< FOR DECALS AND MORE!

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                          Rowleym
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                          #553

                          I went to oriellys with a piece that was mocked up to fit(tape and stuff) and found a piece off the shelf for like 5$ that fit great.

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                          sk8 or die

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #554

                            For those of you that are not on facebook
                            Last night I loaded  up a modified tune from our lovely Mr. Snap and went for a drive having done some motor work the other day, including sealing the compressor housing to the turbo (it had a huge leak) I drove around for a while staying out of boost and enjoying he non hunting idle and the greatly increased driveability. My new bypass valves were working great and everything felt great about the car. I was happier than I have been in a while, knowing that a few settings were holding me back from having a car that was great. Towards the end of my drive I decided to get into boost a bit to see how it felt with the updated settings, I rolled on the throttle a little bit and the car sucked to the ground and just started going like a bat out of hell. I couldn't believe how much difference a tune could make! I let off quickly due to being in a slightly residential area and rolled over to a better street for playing. I turned onto the street and cruised to second gear (which the ecu now recognizes from VSS input and RPM) and rolled on the gas again, the turbo spooled and hit like a freight train, tires spun and I rocketed forward. Wow. This was amazing. I short shifted into third and gave it some more gas, at a 45 roll the rear tires lit up like a christmas tree and it once again launched forward. Something was wrong, something didn't seem right. The turbo had never screamed like it did those last two gears like it ever has, the bypass valves were never that loud. I tapped the peak button on my boost gauge to show the highest recorded boost pressure. It showed 20psi. Shit. When I put the face of the turbo back on I completely forgot to put the wastegate vacuum line back on. Then the car started to run weird, it was missing, it was hanging on rpms after shifts. I rolled back over to the shop and started being not too happy. I had looked at setting overboost protection in Megasquirt the day before, and did, but when I loaded the new tune it wasn't on there and I forgot to go back and enable it, I didn't have my boost gauge set up to warn me when I went over 10psi... Damn. Not good. 
                            I pulled plugs and saw extremely obvious signs of some detonation on the pistons, but it didn't look too terrible. The plugs looked a little bit worse than they did the day before when I checked them. I started it back  up again and it seemed to be okay, but the expansion tank on the radiator was REALLY bulged. I hooked the boost leak tester back up to it for kicks and instead of leaking all of the air out of the seal between the compressor housing and the CHRA it just went no where. I couldn't hear the air escape, but it wasn't holding pressure. I waited a second and heard a nice "blub blub blub" coming from the engine... damn again. The headgasket wasn't sealing. I don't think this was brought on by the overboost though. I had issues with coolant dissapearing and doing other weird things earlier so I am uncertain if it just wasn't sealing right the whole time. 
                            The biggest question I have now is, what to do? If I need to get the head decked I will have to take the motor 100% apart again, which means new bolts and bearings in the bottom end, which would cost a fair chunk of change. 
                            If I find an m52 (motor I want anyway) I would spend that money towards getting it rebuilt, and throw a set of rods and pistons in it for a long term motor that could handle many much powers. 
                            I am pulling the motor tonight to asses the situation. 

                            TL;DR? 
                            cliffs
                            New tune rocks

                            PSHHHHHHHHHHHH
                            SqUALLLLL
                            HOLY CRAP! 
                            Oh Crap!
                            Shit
                            Damn
                            blub blub blub
                            Crap

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                            • B
                              B
                              B C
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #555

                              Im so glad to have you join me in the accidental overboost club. We have great activities lined up this year such as "name that random engine fragment" and "how to self ventilate an engine block".

                              Why would you need bottom end hardware from a head gasket job?

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
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                                #556

                                I have an MLS so there is no way I "blew" the gasket. I am assuming it never sealed. This would lead me to believe it was because I never had the block decked. If I need the block decked it will be a full tear down again.

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                                  Rowleym
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                                  #557

                                  Never heard of needing an iron block to be decked for a proper mls seal. Deck the head, buy a cut ring, and go back to boosting!

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    #558

                                    A lot of people have issues with the gaskets sealing (not too surprising) and most people that have the block decked don't have issues. 
                                    I used copper spray, and torqued it all down, so I am slightly unsure why it was leaking.
                                    Cut ring isn't something I am too familiar with, am I able to drop my compression with one still?
                                    Edit: just looked at them again, I wish they specified a thickness on the spacer. It is an interesting idea, and may be a good solution. 
                                    Edit Edit: Thickness is the same as my current MLS, the torquing of the head with the copper spacer takes 3+ days, but does make sense. I am thinking that this is a very good route to go.

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                                      Rowleym
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                                      #559

                                      IMO I think its the best option because you get to keep the car on the road this summer! woohoo!

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
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                                        #560

                                        Pulled the cams out last night to see how loose the headstuds were. Each nut took kat least another 1/4 turn to get to their torque spec. Going to see if that was the issue! 
                                        The cooling system held a lot of pressure overnight, and was still overflowing when I took the expansion tank cap off, so the gasket seals well enough for that. As stated, going to test the re-torqued head.

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          #561

                                          All that can go wrong will...
                                          I retorqued the head and got it all back together last night. I hooked up the boost leak tester and still had bubbling. It still sounded odd though, so we spent some time tracking it down. It was oil bubbling, at the bottom of the oil pan. Took the oil feed line off of the turbo and it was shooting air out of the oil inlet. Wtf. Pulled the oil drain line off of the turbo and that was pushing a ton of air out. Double wtf. With the oil drain line disconnected the bubbling stopped. 
                                          So the turbo is toast... cool.
                                          This wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have a slightly bent compressor fin from when I got it, so I am not going to spend the money to rebuild a turbo with a bent compressor blade. This would mean getting  a new compressor wheel (billet most likely) and sending it out to get it rebuilt and balanced and cleaned etc. This quickly gets to over $500 in costs, but would result in an upgraded turbo. 
                                          A new HX35 is $800, a Garrett would be around $1200, but going with a different turbo means getting my exhaust modified, which would take even more time. I need to make some calls today to figure out what I am going to do. 
                                          The frustration continues ;)

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