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  • GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGreyG
    GunMetalGrey
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    #38

    How far should I go with this motor re-build? Do I really need to do the main and crank bearings? or is that just extra money and time and work for something that really isn't a wear item anyway? Same question with piston rings, I would assume piston rings would be a decent idea, but is it really needed? I know I need to do a valve job and an MLS Gasket and ARP studs, because I am going to boost prep the motor while I am in there anyway, and if I can source s50 cams those would go in at the same time I think but who knows anymore. I picked up a laptop the other day after selling my desktop to TJ, so that was a good amount of money that could have been used in the swap, but you kind of need a computer to sell things efficiently, and realOEM does not work on my phone ;)

    All in all, progress is being made (kind of)

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    • Ryan...R
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      Ryan...
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      I guess, if I were in the same position (which I will be eventually as I rebuild the wrx motor), if you have the cash and the part isn't crazy expensive, i'd replace it.. The peace of mind + knowing you're hoping for big HP #s = I'd replace just about any moving part that you can.

      2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

      2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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      • EarlE
        EarlE
        Earl
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        #40

        To be rebuilt you need new bearings and rings. That's all a rebuild it. Lol I would replace them because theyre a good price and add the piece of mind:P

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        • GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGreyG
          GunMetalGrey
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          #41

          Good price? It's almost another 600 dollars lol.

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
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            #42

            Just for bearings and rings? You don't need a rebuild kit. Lol

            $300 is the absolute most. Lol Probably more so $200ish

            http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/B151/POR_B151_ENGman_pg1.htm

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
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              #43

              Odd, I had thought it was a ton more.

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              • EarlE
                EarlE
                Earl
                wrote on last edited by
                #44

                Nope. It's not hard to do either if you already have it apart;) and it gives you that brand new motor confidence.

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                • GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGreyG
                  GunMetalGrey
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                  #45

                  Posted Image

                  Soo....

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                  • GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGreyG
                    GunMetalGrey
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                    #46

                    Picked up those bad boys for my pops!

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                      ten2doyle102
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                      For what car? The porcshe?

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                      E30 by ten2doyle102, on Flickr

                      2000 Audi S4 2.7TT, 1991 318is 1.8L

                      Represntin' da A-Town foo's

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                      • GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGreyG
                        GunMetalGrey
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                        #48

                        Yeah.

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                        • GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGrey
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                          #49

                          Boost prep idea went out the window, especially when a headgasket and ARP studs are 450 without shipping, I just got an OEM head gasket and studs for 50 dollars..... so thats a thing. Getting the head rebuilt by a local guy, full valve job and deck. Did an awesome job on another m50tu. Motor parts have been ordered and motor disassembly will start... tomorrow?

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                          • GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGreyG
                            GunMetalGrey
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            So I pulled the head off of my e34 M50TU to get the head rebuilt (valve seals were not the best on the exhaust of cylinder 3). So I had planned on just rebuilding the head, and slapping it back on, that is until I saw the cylinder walls. I shall let this picture do the talking.

                            Posted Image

                            They are glass, not cool at all. The picture makes them look a tad bit scratched but they are not.

                            So I need to do something about that, and I feel as though I wont be able to re-hone those because they have a fairly good lip where the piston stops its travel so I can tell its fairly worn(fairly clear in the picture). I am thinking that I cannot get away with just re-honing and new rings, but am I wrong? Or do I have to bore over .25 and use new rings (which is freaking expensive) Anyone have any insight on this? Obviously I would like to keep this fairly cost effective.

                            Any help is appreciated, and I am open to all options here!

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                            • EarlE
                              EarlE
                              Earl
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                              #51

                              Measure them:) if you had to bore it out you'd need oversized pistons. You can't just slap bigger rings on to fill the gap:P lol

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #52

                                False you can, up to a .50 over. It's pricey though.

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                                  industrialsized
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                                  #53

                                  yeah you can just hone them out if they are still round and the bores aren't hourglassed. just use a blade hone and go slow

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                                  • GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGreyG
                                    GunMetalGrey
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                                    #54

                                    I need to measure it all first to make sure I can safely do that.

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                                    • EarlE
                                      EarlE
                                      Earl
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                                      #55

                                      Oversized rings just sound janky to me. Like a quick patch.

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                                      • GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGreyG
                                        GunMetalGrey
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                                        #56

                                        Pelican sells them, so I will assume that they are not that bad. But if I need to go oversized rings I will end up with a new motor....

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                                        • GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGreyG
                                          GunMetalGrey
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                                          So it looks like the 318 will be sold! Good or bad I do not know, but it gives me the money I need for the swap car.

                                          Guy that will be buying it is a good guy, has great taste, and will take care of my baby. It is amazing that You can get so attached to a car. But I know that its going to good hands.

                                          /rant.

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