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Helmets: What the snell do I need

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  • m42b32M
    m42b32M
    m42b32
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    I'm 6'4"... I already know fitting in the e36 with a helmet is going to be interesting. I'll most likely require a combination of slouching, gangster lean, and possibly an open sunroof. 

    For the e30, the slicktop gives me a little more room so hopefully I can make it work as I am planning to keep a completely stock interior. Once the e30 is moving again, it will see the majority of helmet related driving and the e36 will be reserved for daily duty and winter events. I guess worst case scenario I swap in a fixed back seat before events. 

    Anyone know, on average, how much a helmet would add to the top of your head?

    1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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    • KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRollsK
      KaiserRolls
      wrote on last edited by
      #34

      m42b32 said:

      I'm 6'4"... I already know fitting in the e36 with a helmet is going to be interesting. I'll most likely require a combination of slouching, gangster lean, and possibly an open sunroof. 

      For the e30, the slicktop gives me a little more room so hopefully I can make it work as I am planning to keep a completely stock interior. Once the e30 is moving again, it will see the majority of helmet related driving and the e36 will be reserved for daily duty and winter events. I guess worst case scenario I swap in a fixed back seat before events. 

      Anyone know, on average, how much a helmet would add to the top of your head?

      2-3" maybe?

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      • straight6pwrS
        straight6pwrS
        straight6pwr
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        #35

        we stopped by Pegasus on Saturday. Bart was the guy behind the counter who was very helpful and full of advise.

        trying on a bunch of helmets was very necessary as the fit went beyond just head size. also, between brands, a large wasn't consistently the same size. 

        OMP helmets ran smaller, Bell in the middle, and Racequip were slightly larger. this a good thing because you end up with a bunch of different sizes to get it just right.

        we also learned Pegasus doesn't keep all the helmets in stock, so we got lucky that the proper fitting ones were there. (2 months+ for them to get in more stock)

        Rich you were right - candy store of awesome stuff!

        Dan
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        • m42b32M
          m42b32M
          m42b32
          wrote on last edited by
          #36

          straight6pwr said:

          we stopped by Pegasus on Saturday. Bart was the guy behind the counter who was very helpful and full of advise.

          trying on a bunch of helmets was very necessary as the fit went beyond just head size. also, between brands, a large wasn't consistently the same size. 

          OMP helmets ran smaller, Bell in the middle, and Racequip were slightly larger. this a good thing because you end up with a bunch of different sizes to get it just right.

          we also learned Pegasus doesn't keep all the helmets in stock, so we got lucky that the proper fitting ones were there. (2 months+ for them to get in more stock)

          Rich you were right - candy store of awesome stuff!

          Bart was super helpful, Pegasus is amazing. They will continue to get my business for sure. 

          +1 on try before you buy! The differences in how each brand fit was surprising

          1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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          • B
            B
            Boris3
            wrote on last edited by
            #37

            Glad you found helmets that fit. Between your own head shape and all the different shell structures and interior padding designs it really helps to try them on. I'm always amazed at the guys that can just do the online order and tape measure approach and actually get the right fit. 

            If I'm thinking correctly about the same guy who helped you, Bart has been a presence in Milwaukee autox for years, competing and working tech. Good guy and knows his stuff.

            Showroom is fun and only has a small fraction displayed of what they carry in stock. All sorts of goodness in the online and hard copy catalogues.

            1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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            • GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGreyG
              GunMetalGrey
              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              Boris3 said:

              I'm 6' and tall torso as well so understand the challenge.

              FWIW, here's my progression.

              So what you are telling me is that you have a stockpile of seats for me to try? 😛

              ...

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              • straight6pwrS
                straight6pwrS
                straight6pwr
                wrote on last edited by
                #39

                Boris3 said:

                If I'm thinking correctly about the same guy who helped you, Bart has been a presence in Milwaukee autox for years, competing and working tech. Good guy and knows his stuff.

                yup that's him, he mentioned we'd see him out there at the autox at miller park.

                Dan
                yajsYRL.jpg.e5f350b4dfe961d76ac8b32efce2e1a6.jpg

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                  B
                  Boris3
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                  #40

                  Hah! For a while my basement looked like an arcade game room or a gearhead's furnished rec room with comfort seats, sport seats, and multiple brands of used race seats. With the exception of the OMP and one old Cobra Suzuka, though all gone now... some to folks on this forum. Enabling always appreciated!

                  1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                  • EarlE
                    EarlE
                    Earl
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                    #41

                    Being an M2015 Snell rating versus an SA2015 rating, would it be safe to assume this would not be a viable choice for Auto X/Drift events?

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                    • patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1P
                      patsbimmer1
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                      #42

                      Earl said:

                      Being an M2015 Snell rating versus an SA2015 rating, would it be safe to assume this would not be a viable choice for Auto X/Drift events?

                      Depends, the organizer may allow it but there are differences.  SA is rated for roll bar impact and has flame retardant qualities.

                      2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                      07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                      97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                      95 325is *sold*
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                      • EarlE
                        EarlE
                        Earl
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                        #43

                        Seems that Club FR only requires DOT. So if all I plan to do is drift, I am covered...hard to say no at $110 blowout prices

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                        • patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #44

                          If that's all that's required then yes.  It depends on how much you care about your noggin.  DOT is the minimum standard for motorcycle helmets, i'm not sure if they actually have a standard for automotive use.  Snell goes above and beyond DOT standards and has a standard for auto racing.

                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                          95 325is *sold*
                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                          BMWCCA #473306

                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                          • KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRollsK
                            KaiserRolls
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #45

                            Drift events seem to only require a pulse & some cash to get in.

                            Also, you only get one head.

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                              B
                              Boris3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #46

                              Some other things to consider in M versus SA choice is that unlike an M-rated helmet a Snell SA2015 helmet is good for numerous types of events--racing (SA required), track days/DEs (varies by organization but an SA will always be good), autox (either M/SA), drifting (??), motorcycling (M/SA), etc.--and if you ever come to your senses and buck the addiction you could sell it used to a wider pool of buyers.

                              Next issue: open versus closed face.... go closed in part for the reasons above.

                              1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                              • EarlE
                                EarlE
                                Earl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #47

                                Definitely running a closed face. I don't want tire dust in my contacts and mouth lol

                                museum sig 2earl.jpg

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