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ILC's 1991 318 S50 track rat

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  • i_love_carsI
    i_love_carsI
    i_love_cars
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    #108

    just got the word from Big Bear - the E30 is fine. Nothing is bent, and the car was barely even out of alignment. All they could come up with is a cracked mount for the fuel pump, lol. 

    So, now I am officially on the hunt for new front fenders, a valance, and a driver side door. 

    Should be back on track first thing next season.

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    2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
    2007 Z4MR 
    2003 E39 M5
    2002 E46 M3
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      Boris3
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      Great news that there's no frame damage and all the suspension is intact!

      Re the body parts quest: I've had some communication with this seller down in Rockford about the passenger side fender, though he's pretty slow in followup responses and I'm still waiting on promised pics and price detail. Anybody here know the seller?

      https://rockford.craigslist.org/pts/5721149272.html

      Might get a quicker response if you offer to buy the whole car...and we work out a deal for the passenger fender as a finder's fee. 👀

      My guess is the ad fell under the radar since a "BMW 325si" doesn't pop up in an e30 parts search.

      1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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      • patsbimmer1P
        patsbimmer1P
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        I'm 20 minutes from Rockford if you need eyes.

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        • KaiserRollsK
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          KaiserRolls
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          #111

          Those fenders are even pre-faded. What a steal

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            Boris3
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            #112

            Indeed! But since there are no pics of the passenger side I was wondering if it was trashed. According to last from the seller all good but no pics or price info yet.

            Patsbimmer thanks for the offer. We'll see if I hear back.

            1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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            • m42b32M
              m42b32M
              m42b32
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              #113

              its definitely worthwhile to pick up the entire shell instead of buying individual panels. I bought a whole car to repair mine as tracking down clean panels around here is difficult at best and nobody down south wants to ship.

              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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              • i_love_carsI
                i_love_carsI
                i_love_cars
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                #114

                Boris3 said:

                Great news that there's no frame damage and all the suspension is intact!

                Re the body parts quest: I've had some communication with this seller down in Rockford about the passenger side fender, though he's pretty slow in followup responses and I'm still waiting on promised pics and price detail. Anybody here know the seller?

                https://rockford.craigslist.org/pts/5721149272.html

                Might get a quicker response if you offer to buy the whole car...and we work out a deal for the passenger fender as a finder's fee. 👀

                My guess is the ad fell under the radar since a "BMW 325si" doesn't pop up in an e30 parts search.

                yep, Father Hundley sent that link to me this morning as well - I messaged the guy and said I am interested in a few panels or potentially the whole car depending on price. If the panels are intact and matches my color I would definitely help you out with the passenger fender. 

                My car is Brilliantrot though so I dunno his looks like it may be Hellrot. I also don't know if 325is parts fit a 318is.

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                2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                2007 Z4MR 
                2003 E39 M5
                2002 E46 M3
                2021 X5 40i

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                • EarlE
                  EarlE
                  Earl
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                  Literally the same car besides the motor and trans situation. I would hope you plan to get the new parts painted to match the rest of the car given the paint seemed to be in great shape before your crash.

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                  • i_love_carsI
                    i_love_carsI
                    i_love_cars
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                    Earl said:

                    Literally the same car besides the motor and trans situation. I would hope you plan to get the new parts painted to match the rest of the car given the paint seemed to be in great shape before your crash.

                    good to know.

                    i'm unlikely to bother with much in the way of repainting. It's a track car, and I have the 135i to look pretty. The risk of damage at the track is really too high for me to justify the ridiculous cost of painting so many body panels. To have it done right and match everything you're talking at least 2500 bucks just for the paint and labor. That doesn't include parts.

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                    2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                    2007 Z4MR 
                    2003 E39 M5
                    2002 E46 M3
                    2021 X5 40i

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                    • EarlE
                      EarlE
                      Earl
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                      I'm well aware of the cost involved in having a car painted....just figured this car deserved it but I guess not.

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                      • i_love_carsI
                        i_love_carsI
                        i_love_cars
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                        Earl said:

                        I'm well aware of the cost involved in having a car painted....just figured this car deserved it but I guess not. 

                        again, track car that gets driven 10-15 times a year after being pulled off a trailer. The car (was) clean and definitely deserves a nice paint job, it's just impossible to justify for the extremely limited use of a purpose built track vehicle. I agree, it's a shame, a damn shame even, but I have about 500 other places i could better spend that money right now. 

                        Can somebody please tell me how the FUCK to get this white plug/wire cluster out of the body of the car? I am trying to remove the driver side door and cannot for the life of me get this stupid plug out. 

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                        Here's where it's at - all disassembly is done except for the driver door:

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                        2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                        2007 Z4MR 
                        2003 E39 M5
                        2002 E46 M3
                        2021 X5 40i

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                          Boris3
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                          Tough call. The car did look good but probably not worth redoing everything to make it pretty if it's going to be a just a track car and you're going to keep pushing the envelope. Put $$ into go fast, cornering and stopping.

                          Just an FYI for folks doing DE / track day events (non-timed) with a car they're not willing to ball up and walk away from. Stuff does happen, rare in a well run event but it does. Lockton sells track day insurance. Adds $100-200+ to your cost for an event budget depending on the track and the value you place on the car and there are also deductible options 10-20%. But if you've got some serious money wrapped up in your ride it's something to consider.

                          1990 325i racecar (ITS, former Spec E30); 2004 330i ZHP

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                          • i_love_carsI
                            i_love_carsI
                            i_love_cars
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                            Boris3 said:

                            Tough call. The car did look good but probably not worth redoing everything to make it pretty if it's going to be a just a track car and you're going to keep pushing the envelope. Put $$ into go fast, cornering and stopping.

                            Just an FYI for folks doing DE / track day events (non-timed) with a car they're not willing to ball up and walk away from. Stuff does happen, rare in a well run event but it does. Lockton sells track day insurance. Adds $100-200+ to your cost for an event budget depending on the track and the value you place on the car and there are also deductible options 10-20%. But if you've got some serious money wrapped up in your ride it's something to consider.

                            yup, good advice. When I still tracked my 135i I *always* used Lockton. If whatever you paid for your car will ruin your life or make you cry if you ball it up at the track, definitely be sure to run with track insurance.

                            Part of why I bought the E30 was because I was sick of dropping $300+ per event on insurance for $35k of coverage on the 135i, given that I'd be popping $5k out of pocket anyway for the deductible before Lockton kicked in anything. I'd need to seriously fuck that car up to get a return on paying for the insurance.

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                            2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                            2007 Z4MR 
                            2003 E39 M5
                            2002 E46 M3
                            2021 X5 40i

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                              1990m3
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                              sorry to see my old car in this condition!  I both hope and expect you plan to have the frame checked before assuming it's still straight.  e30 frames are old and not that stiff, in an impact them can be tweaked easily.

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                              • i_love_carsI
                                i_love_carsI
                                i_love_cars
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                                1990m3 said:

                                sorry to see my old car in this condition!  I both hope and expect you plan to have the frame checked before assuming it's still straight.  e30 frames are old and not that stiff, in an impact them can be tweaked easily.  

                                The good news is that Big Bear was able to align it with barely any adjustment. The car feels as it did before, and at 60 mph on public highway I can let the steering wheel go and it drives straight. Unfortunately that doesn't tell you what the car will do at the limits when taking hard corners 

                                So I'm still going to just run it over to a place like IA in Waukesha that has a laser they can run over the frame to verify, but given what is known from having it at Big Bear, I'm betting the worst case scenario is that the car has a really minor tweak which would likely be worth fixing as the cost of that is a lot less than a harsh bend. 

                                Rest assured she'll be back on track next season in proper running order....and probably with a cooling system overhaul because I want to get a radiator in there that will allow fitment of an electric fan so I don't watch the temp gauge skyrocket on hot days while waiting in the grid  😆

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                                2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                2007 Z4MR 
                                2003 E39 M5
                                2002 E46 M3
                                2021 X5 40i

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                                  1990m3
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                                  Didn't it still have a electric fan in front of the radiator?  It used to stay cool no problem if you turn it on manually on the grid with the a/c button.

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                                  • i_love_carsI
                                    i_love_carsI
                                    i_love_cars
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                                    1990m3 said:

                                    Didn't it still have a electric fan in front of the radiator?  It used to stay cool no problem if you turn it on manually on the grid with the a/c button. 

                                    oh damn seriously? yea that fan is still there but I was told it isn't entirely doing that much. It's pretty hot today so I'm going to run the car and see if the a/c button does the trick. 

                                    You may have just saved me a bunch of time and effort  😁

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                                    2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                    2007 Z4MR 
                                    2003 E39 M5
                                    2002 E46 M3
                                    2021 X5 40i

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                                      1990m3
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                                      the a/c buitton works, it's the fan switch.  i built the car.

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                                        1990m3 said:

                                        the a/c buitton works, it's the fan switch.  i built the car.

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                                        • i_love_carsI
                                          i_love_carsI
                                          i_love_cars
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                                          1990m3 said:

                                          the a/c buitton works, it's the fan switch.  i built the car.

                                          ironically the one guy that I don't know 😉  I bought the car knowing it had a stamp of approval from Charles, john morgan, dan frodl, and our local forum spec racer Boris. I know it works - everything works on that car. I should have used different words - I really meant I was just excited to go test it out. 

                                          I bought this thing for the long haul knowing it was put together basically perfectly for what it is intended to do and should be able to get another 10 years out of it at the track. I respect your build a ton or I wouldn't have thrown $11k at Charles for the car  😄

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                                          2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                                          2007 Z4MR 
                                          2003 E39 M5
                                          2002 E46 M3
                                          2021 X5 40i

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