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BMW discontinues S engine desigation

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  • R
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    REKIII
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    #15

    patsbimmer1 said:

    To me, the M brand is still aspirational.  If I had the money to choose between my current car and an equal year/mileage M3 I would choose the M3 all day long and it's got nothing to do with the engine designation starting with an S.  I don't think this "waters down" the M brand any further, nobody would accuse an R8 of being watered down even though the 4.2 is based on the A8 engine.

    BMW can go ahead and base their motorsport engines on their more peasant cars.  I think it's great that they can take an N55 and do some magic then we have the new M2 engine!  The guys that are complaining that their $70k+ M car doesn't have a bespoke engine is the same bag of dicks that only own it as a status symbol anyways.

    Not really.  M is now just a glorified trim package.  If BMW made a minivan, there would be an M version.  People only want the badge.  Granted, the widebody packages and what not look cool, so, like you, I would also like an M version.  But I'm not buying it because of the engine, just looks and the badge.

    And the R8 IS watered down if it has the 4.2 in it .  They only build that car so they can sell it cheaper than the 5.2, again to people who just want the status symbol.

    You could say that the lower level cars have gotten that much better, but that again means BMW has not been doing there job, the M cars should stay 'that' much better as well.  Instead they are gigantic boat anchors that have huge horsepower numbers and more electronic nannies than a prison ankle bracelet.

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    • YoungCRY
      YoungCRY
      YoungCR
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      #16

      Best Partners Ever BMW and McLaren Will Work on Engines Together

      kinda related, my first thought was this may lead to what's next for the ///M motors as well as Mclaren's future power plants too.

      Chris Young
      BMWCCA #458972
      1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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      • B
        B
        B C
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        #17

        My guess is hybrid powertrains will be the focus of their efforts.

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        • patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1P
          patsbimmer1
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          #18

          BMW has already assured the world that there will be an electric M car (http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/01/11/bmw-m-boss-says-electric-m-cars-inevitable/) but BMW has done a bit of their own R&D with electric motors and mass produced carbon fiber so I don't know how much they can gain from Mclaren.  If anything I could see Mclaren gathering information from BMW regarding manufacturing processes.  Who knows if Mclaren plans to remain a boutique manufacturer or enter the realms of mass produced luxury sports cars.  I think a hybrid M is the next step for BMW which makes sense with this partnership but I can't say i'd be surprised if they went straight to electric.

          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
          95 325is *sold*
          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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          • andyhundleyA
            andyhundleyA
            andyhundley
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            BMW made an electric powered e30 back in the late 80's. I tried hunting for an article on it but came up short.

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            • m42b32M
              m42b32M
              m42b32
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              #20

              andyhundley said:

              BMW made an electric powered e30 back in the late 80's. I tried hunting for an article on it but came up short. 

              https://www.wired.com/2012/12/40-years-bmw-evs/ 

              This one??

              1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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              • andyhundleyA
                andyhundleyA
                andyhundley
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                Thats the one.

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                • B
                  B
                  B C
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                  #22

                  Dont forget the 2002!

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                  • patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1
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                    Ya know,  that looks like a lot but that whole set up may weigh less or the same as the engine trans/ set up.  That's interesting.

                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                    95 325is *sold*
                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                    BMWCCA #473306

                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                    • m42b32M
                      m42b32M
                      m42b32
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                      Snap said:

                      Dont forget the 2002!

                      I actually got to see one of the original electric 1602's when I went to Europe a few years ago! I'll have to see if I can dig up pictures. they didn't have the hood open or anything unfortunately.

                      1991 318is, 1991 318i, 2022 Bronco

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