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What (non-BMW/non-GM) V8 Would You Swap Into A BMW?

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  • HipMFH
    HipMFH
    HipMF
    wrote on last edited by
    #28

    Flathead with Ardun OHV conversion.

    Or...

    A rover V8 in a 2002 or e21 would be neat.

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    • rampelsauceR
      rampelsauceR
      rampelsauce
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      #29

      How about a 2002 Rover V-8 in a Isetta.  You'll be dropping cylinder liners while youre droppin panties, nahm sayin?

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      • wasnt m3W
        wasnt m3W
        wasnt m3
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        #30

        HipMF said:

        Flathead with Ardun OHV conversion.

        I am extremely impressed/surprised that there's someone else on here who knows about Ardun heads.

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        • patsbimmer1P
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          patsbimmer1
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          #31

          wasnt m3 said:

          I am extremely impressed/surprised that there's someone else on here who knows about Ardun heads.

          Are those the ridiculously rare heads for the ford's?  Weren't they like a race special?

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          • wasnt m3W
            wasnt m3W
            wasnt m3
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            #32

            Yes sir. Pretty trick stuff for the time. If you don't know about them, look into the V8 60 that Ford made. It was a smaller flathead V8 used mostly in midget racers and race boats.

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            • patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1
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              #33

              wasnt m3 said:

              Yes sir. Pretty trick stuff for the time. If you don't know about them, look into the V8 60 that Ford made. It was a smaller flathead V8 used mostly in midget racers and race boats.

              Thanks, I'll look that up!  I heard the name once at a small cars and coffee gathering in Madison a few months back and one of the guys was saying that there is a Madison collector that has a few of them just lying around that he gathers as they come up for sale.  I don't remember if Chris was there or would remember that but he may be able to confirm.  Or I've had a long day and i'm just making shit up now.

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              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
              95 325is *sold*
              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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              • YoungCRY
                YoungCRY
                YoungCR
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                #34

                patsbimmer1 said:

                Thanks, I'll look that up! I heard the name once at a small cars and coffee gathering in Madison a few months back and one of the guys was saying that there is a Madison collector that has a few of them just lying around that he gathers as they come up for sale. I don't remember if Chris was there or would remember that but he may be able to confirm. Or I've had a long day and i'm just making shit up now.

                There is a guy in Madison that owns all the NOS Ardun heads in existence. Looking forward to seeing his collection sometime. *hint hint Pat wake yo' ass up for C&C*

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                • patsbimmer1P
                  patsbimmer1P
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                  #35

                  YoungCR said:

                  There is a guy in Madison that owns all the NOS Ardun heads in existence. Looking forward to seeing his collection sometime. *hint hint Pat wake yo' ass up for C&C*

                  Haha! Gotcha. Trust me though, it is not that I am asleep. I have a small human rhat makes sure I am up between 6:30 am and 8 am every day.

                  2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                  07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                  97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                  95 325is *sold*
                  93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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                  "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  • wally509W
                    wally509W
                    wally509
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #36

                    HipMF said:

                    Flathead with Ardun OHV conversion.

                    Or...

                    A rover V8 in a 2002 or e21 would be neat.

                    Whoa! I was going to say that! Not about wasting a set of Ardun heads on a BMW but the Buick/Olds 215 Aluminum (which became the Rover engine). Back in the 80's we BS'd about sticking those engines in just about everything because of the low weight. Obviously it was all talk. Always thought one would be killer in a 914.

                    YoungCR said:

                    There is a guy in Madison that owns all the NOS Ardun heads in existence. Looking forward to seeing his collection sometime...

                    His name is Rich Munz. I believe he has 4 or 5 sets of original heads, not sure if any are NOS, pretty sure they are all built up engines. There was a set of the extremely rare V8-60 Ardun heads found NOS in the box 5 or so years ago, they sold for ~$35000 IIRC and pretty sure Mr. Munz did not buy them. Either way, his collection is quite awesome...as is his collection of British motorcycles.

                    I can't believe there is a discussion here on this forum about Arduns. Pretty damn cool!

                    Later,

                    Wally

                    "The more things change, the more they SUCK." -Butt-Head (Mike Judge)

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                    • R
                      R
                      Rowleym
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                      #37

                      if money was no object, hartley v8. Made with 2 Hyabusas or something. 

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                      • NarcosisN
                        NarcosisN
                        Narcosis
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                        #38

                        Not a V8, but I think a 2JZ-GTE swap would be cool.

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                        • R
                          R
                          Rowleym
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #39

                          Narcosis said:

                          Not a V8, but I think a 2JZ-GTE swap would be cool.

                          Never understood this. Why 2jz when a stock junkyard 300$ 150K mile m50 nearly BOLTS IN and can make 800ish hp on factory internals, and on stock ecu, etc.

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                          • patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1P
                            patsbimmer1
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            Rowleym said:

                            Never understood this. Why 2jz when a stock junkyard 300$ 150K mile m50 nearly BOLTS IN and can make 800ish hp on factory internals, and on stock ecu, etc. 

                            Not that I don't believe you but please show me this 800whp m50 on stock internals.  It's much easier and cheaper to get the 2jz to 1,000whp than to get an m50 to 800whp.  Not to mention the volume of 2jz's out there already making north of 1,000whp and the amount of engineering that has been put into these products.  It's easy bolt in power.

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                            07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                            97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                            95 325is *sold*
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                            • R
                              R
                              Rowleym
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #41

                              Look up franks e36 budget build part duex on bf.c

                              He's makinf 780whp 600wtq on junkyard m50nv with vanos convert on stock ecu/ e85.

                              But anyways. If you look over the pond there is more people making that kind of power.

                              But who would ever need more than 500whp in an e30? That's just insane even.

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                              • GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGreyG
                                GunMetalGrey
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                                #42

                                Rowleym said:

                                Look up franks e36 budget build part duex on bf.c

                                He's makinf 780whp 600wtq on junkyard m50nv with vanos convert on stock ecu/ e85.

                                This is wildly inaccurate. It is an m52 crank with H beam rodg in an m50 block. It was all fully rebuilt, not a junkyard motor anymore in my opinion. 

                                A stock bottom end in an m50tu or nv will never stand up to 750whp

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                                  R
                                  Rowleym
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                                  #43

                                  GunMetalGrey said:

                                  This is wildly inaccurate. It is an m52 crank with H beam rodg in an m50 block. It was all fully rebuilt, not a junkyard motor anymore in my opinion. 

                                  A stock bottom end in an m50tu or nv will never stand up to 750whp

                                  Not true. Ill find you some more proof. he isn't using an m52 crank. That was part one, and it died. Hes on a junkyard m50nv block right now.

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                                  • HipMFH
                                    HipMFH
                                    HipMF
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #44

                                    Rowleym said:

                                    But who would ever need more than 500whp in an e30? That's just insane even.

                                    ^This.

                                    Anything over four or five hundred is beyond what any average mortal can handle in ANY car, unless you're just doing highway pulls and at that point it's just a bunch of dick-measuring anyway...

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                                    • GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGreyG
                                      GunMetalGrey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #45

                                      HipMF said:

                                      ^This.

                                      Anything over four or five hundred is beyond what any average mortal can handle in ANY car, unless you're just doing highway pulls and at that point it's just a bunch of dick-measuring anyway...

                                      I've got my ruler out!

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                                      • R
                                        R
                                        Rowleym
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                                        #46

                                        http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118110&page=2

                                        and here is another one with stock internals, 761whp

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                                        • patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1P
                                          patsbimmer1
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #47

                                          HipMF said:

                                          ^This.

                                          Anything over four or five hundred is beyond what any average mortal can handle in ANY car, unless you're just doing highway pulls and at that point it's just a bunch of dick-measuring anyway...

                                          Why?  Because why not... Are you even American!?!?

                                          Rowleym said:

                                          http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118110&page=2

                                          and here is another one with stock internals, 761whp

                                          If you are talking about the widebody then it says right in the description it has an M52 crank on page 1 and later on the owner of the dyno says "stock parts built engine".  It's not some random stock m50 they just threw a bunch of boost on and made power.  Not to mention, the dynapack dyno's always read a lot higher than Mustang or Dynojet numbers.  Throw it on a Dynojet and I bet it drops below 700whp.  Now, that's still impressive but does not support your previous claim.

                                          Not to detract from this thread but there is no arguing that the 2jz is a better engine to make stupid amounts of horsepower.  That's it, done.  I could sit here and find oddball examples of other engines as well but those are exceptions.

                                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                                          95 325is *sold*
                                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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