Member Spotlight - Nov 2015
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These are always good for a chuckle!
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Hahaha! Earls personality is very hard to describe but this captured it perfectly. Great interview.
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I would like to say though, that I beleive a wheel is an assembly that includes, among other things, a tire.
This.
Earl *said* he was gonna take notes and learn this, but just like some other things in his life he started working on it... And well.... You know the rest.
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You could call the assembly with a tire a wheel as well since that's also come to be a common use term. Without the tire it is still a wheel.
A rim on the other hand, by definition, is a component of a wheel.
To help clear some definitions up.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wheel?s=t
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rim?s=t
I'm sure Collin will want to argue with the dictionary now=)
Just because industry has been using the term doesn't mean it is the correct usage=P
And may I remind you what I said in the interview:
S: Thanks for your time, Earl. Any final thoughts, opinions, or words of wisdom?
E: Thought: I'm honored to be chosen for a spotlight. Opinion: WHEEL is the proper term and RIM is still a component (not an assembly). Words of Wisdom: If ever anyone is wondering about lubricating certain components, any mechanical/engineering woes, or wondering why parts from other makes of cars aren't bolting into your BMW, do as I do and text Snap. He is a Wizard!
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The only thing worse then using a singular dictionary definition to argue your cause is dismissing a longstanding industry standard term because you don't like it. There are TONS of words in the English language with multiple contexts/meanings. To pick any one definition and say the other uses are incorrect is stupid.
Let's do "bank"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bank?s=t
I keep my money in the bank.
The plane banked to the left.
Please flip on that bank of light switches.
I killed that bank shot in pool last night.
I'm sitting on the bank of the river.
Just because you dont agree with the multiple uses of the word "rim", does not make their uses any less correct.
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It's not that I don't agree or like it at all. It is my opinion. I am backing my opinion up with hard facts.
I understand you see the term used in industry but that does not mean that the word is being used correctly. There is no international source of information that states Rim is an acceptable term to use instead of Wheel. There is also no source stating that the definition of rim is an assembled part. Every definition clearly states that it is the outer most part of a wheel. Check the encyclopedia or any other internationally used source. If you find somewhere that proves this wrong, then you have a valid argument. If not, then stop please ranting or trying to prove me wrong every time I say wheel. lol A bill of material is not a hard source of information=P
Also, you using the word bank doesn't help justify your use of rim. You have one word that you're using to mean multiple things. All of which are covered in the text book definition.
/rant
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I'm not trying to be a prude but I cannot prove that using the word "rim" to describe a wheel is grammatically correct. By definition, that is the wrong use for the word. I am trying to look at it from your side and find a standard that states otherwise but I am falling short.
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great interview.
on this whole wheel/rim thing - if i walk up to you and say 'nice rims' it means i like the rims but your tires are stupid.
hey earl, nice rims.
Dan
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What about the usage rim job. Is it the entire asshole. Or nah.
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What did I stumble upon here???
"rim" isn't even considered a synonym of "wheel" in a dictionary. They are related but indicate two different objects. Opinion doesn't matter when dealing in officially documented language definitions - they have to be presented in absolute, finite terms so that we can have consistency in communication broadly across a large group of people in our society. Anyone who doesn't agree with that I will immediately assume also "feels" that every service provider/company in America should speak 3 languages because people who leave their own countries to come here are too indignant, self-entitled, and lazy to learn common English, better known as the mainstay language of this country for hundreds of years. And for the countless people who don't get that, there's probably not much hope for their success in life.
"Rim" in terms of a wheel is slang in the auto community, and nothing more. There's nothing wrong with that because people in those circles know what you're talking about. But go outside those circles and talk about "rim" and people will wonder if you're talking about part of a basketball hoop, and in the real world, shit like that will get you discredited as being an idiot who doesn't know her/his audience.
People develop their own slang and language-isms in groups/communities ( like the use of "rim" in the context of wheel), which is totally fine (and unavoidable). It's possible that one day "rim" will be added as a synonym of wheel, the same way "lol" has been added in official capacity to the dictionary. That's just how language evolves. In the meantime, it's pretty black/white that it's purely slang in the auto community and nothing more.
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how did you go from wheels/rims to talking about prejudice towards immigrants? just looking for an excuse to drop that in there?
Dan
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