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  • patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1P
    patsbimmer1
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    If you suspect the ABS module to be the issue then I would recommend bleeding the ABS module.  Have someone build pressure like you were bleeding the brakes but instead of cracking the bleeders you'll open up the outgoing lines from the ABS.

    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
    95 325is *sold*
    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

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    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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    • CMartC
      CMartC
      CMart
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      My ABS is removed for the time being to get the car up and running. I may reinstall at a later date, but for now It will be without.

      The car sat for months with brake lines unattached, so I am assuming it will not be fun hence wanting to reverse bleed as I have heard people have better luck vs traditional.

      Link to the parts you used for the home made?

      Anyone have thoughts on this unit? http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Systems-2104-B-Reverse-Bleeder/dp/B00GRV800S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435592408&sr=8-1&keywords=reverse+bleeder

      Excursion 7.3
      E30 LS1

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      • YoungCRY
        YoungCRY
        YoungCR
        wrote on last edited by
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        I'd suggest a plastic machine oil can as my metal one I first used rusted shut. Whatever clear vinyl tubing size they have at the hardware store too that fits snug on a bleeder screw and the nozzle.

        Chris Young
        BMWCCA #458972
        1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          Rowleym
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          #8

          my pedal sinks about 1/4 the way when I start the car. My booster was great before, and I replaced the check valve, and the calipers bleed great, and the pedal is hard when the car isn't on. My abs still works, though, as I tested it..

          If I bring the pedal up when the car is running, it rolls just fine. When I push it down, they stick down a little.

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          • ClassEC
            ClassEC
            ClassE
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            CYoung said:

            32398-Oil-CanMG8067.jpg

            I'd suggest a plastic machine oil can as my metal one I first used rusted shut. Whatever clear vinyl tubing size they have at the hardware store too that fits snug on a bleeder screw and the nozzle.

            If metal -Try to get one that isn't coated/painted red like the one above. The brake fluid will eat away at the cheap Chinese paint and it'll flake into the fluid (like mine did).

            I tried the reverse bleed when doing my clutch slave and couldn't get the right combo of nozzle/hose to seal tight enough.... So bled it with vacuum bleeder.

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            • KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRollsK
              KaiserRolls
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              I will have to bench bleed slave then bleed some more once I get the crap in the car. I'm not looking forward to that portion of the install.

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              • patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1P
                patsbimmer1
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                Rowleym said:

                my pedal sinks about 1/4 the way when I start the car. My booster was great before, and I replaced the check valve, and the calipers bleed great, and the pedal is hard when the car isn't on. My abs still works, though, as I tested it..

                If I bring the pedal up when the car is running, it rolls just fine. When I push it down, they stick down a little. 

                Your pedal is supposed to sink after you start the car, especially if you built pressure in the pedal before starting it.

                2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                95 325is *sold*
                93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                BMWCCA #473306

                Instagram @patsbimmer1

                AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                  Rowleym
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  patsbimmer1 said:

                  my pedal sinks about 1/4 the way when I start the car. My booster was great before, and I replaced the check valve, and the calipers bleed great, and the pedal is hard when the car isn't on. My abs still works, though, as I tested it..

                  If I bring the pedal up when the car is running, it rolls just fine. When I push it down, they stick down a little. 

                  Your pedal is supposed to sink after you start the car, especially if you built pressure in the pedal before starting it.

                  Is it supposed to sink a bit and stay? The brakes stick a bit unless I pull the pedal back up.

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                  • patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1P
                    patsbimmer1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    It is supposed to sink and stay after you start the car.  If  your pedal is physically sticking then it is something mechanical between the master and the pedal.  If you had sticking calipers but the pedal didn't stick then it would be something after the master most likely.

                    2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                    07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                    97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                    95 325is *sold*
                    93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                    BMWCCA #473306

                    Instagram @patsbimmer1

                    AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                    "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                      Rowleym
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      the pedal is not returning. The calipers stick until I pull the brake pedal up again. its very easy to pull the pedal up again.

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                        Rowleym
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                        patsbimmer1 said:

                        It is supposed to sink and stay after you start the car.  If  your pedal is physically sticking then it is something mechanical between the master and the pedal.  If you had sticking calipers but the pedal didn't stick then it would be something after the master most likely.

                        such as my ABS system?

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                        • patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1P
                          patsbimmer1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          No. Your abs wouldnt cause the issue. Thats a hydraulic piece that wouldnt hold your pedal.

                          2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                          07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                          97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                          95 325is *sold*
                          93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                          BMWCCA #473306

                          Instagram @patsbimmer1

                          AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                          "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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                            Rowleym
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            Hmm so any ideas? Where would you start.

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                            • patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1P
                              patsbimmer1
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              Rowleym said:

                              Hmm so any ideas? Where would you start. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              PM'd to prevent further thread jacking.

                              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

                              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

                              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
                              95 325is *sold*
                              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

                              BMWCCA #473306

                              Instagram @patsbimmer1

                              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

                              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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