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  • mtecnicM
    mtecnicM
    mtecnic
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    i_love_cars said:

    bahahahahah "like the lost love of a girlfriend who cheated on you" , love it. I will say there is something to be said about the fact that the e92 has a unique motor and that makes it much more expensive to fix. The newer M cars that share motors with other BMWs means more parts available, more likelihood of issues being worked out due to greater volume of cars to sample problems from, and lower hours to do repairs as processes become more standardized. 

    The lost love analogy seems to hit home with car guys.

    Where did you get the impression that this gen M3 shares a motor with anything? I'd be curious to read that.

    My reference: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893611

    '15 ///M3 - Daily  **** '97 ///M3 - Track Car         
    '04 330ci ZHP - sold **** '01 330ci - sold
    '00 328i - sold ********* '00 323i - totalled
    '94 325i - rear ended *** '92 318i vert - sold
    '89 325ix -parted ******* '08 e92 ///M3 - traded

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    • i_love_carsI
      i_love_carsI
      i_love_cars
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      #13

      let me try and dig it up for you - the information is in the BMW engine papers that most people will never look at. Give me some time.

      All technologies in the M3/4 are generic and not M specific, including the ones marketed as ///M. For example, your article highlights in bold font the twin wire arc sprayed cylinder liners - these were already used in N20 engines in 2011 for the F10 320i and is pretty much standard BMW by now. It was marketed as something special for the S55. It's not. Another one is the turbo dual mono scrolls - same tech as the N55. BMW never implemented the hybrid turbocharger that they patented in 2013 in the S55. The S55 was an updated N55 design.

      I'm not saying that there aren't some things in the S55 that are better than other BMW cars (I suspect the rotating assembly in the S55 can handle more than the N55), but all in all, many things that will break on that car will be cheaper to fix than an e92 M3 because i bet you dollars to donuts the next 3/4 series cars will have everything the current M4 has because it's all generic. The e92 was unique. I've yet to see anything on the S55 that screams "i'm a unique M car".

      IMG6593.jpg

      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
      2007 Z4MR 
      2003 E39 M5
      2002 E46 M3
      2021 X5 40i

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      • mtecnicM
        mtecnicM
        mtecnic
        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        i_love_cars said:

        let me try and dig it up for you - the information is in the BMW engine papers that most people will never look at. Give me some time. 

        All technologies in the M3/4 are generic and not M specific, including the ones marketed as ///M. For example, your article highlights in bold font the twin wire arc sprayed cylinder liners - these were already used in M20 engines in 2011 for the F10 320i and is pretty much standard BMW by now. It was marketed as something special for the S55. It's not. Another one is the turbo dual mono scrolls - same tech as the N55. BMW never implemented the hybrid turbocharger that they patented in 2013 in the S55. The S55 was an updated N55 design. 

        I'm not saying that there aren't some things in the S55 that are better than other BMW cars (I suspect the rotating assembly in the S55 can handle more than the N55), but all in all, many things that will break on that car will be cheaper to fix than an e92 M3 because i bet you dollars to donuts the next 3/4 series cars will have everything the current M4 has because it's all generic. The e92 was unique. I've yet to see anything on the S55 that screams "i'm a unique M car". 

        I can certainly agree on all the points you made of pieces not called the engine :)

        The e92 s65 is just a chopped version of the S85 from the m5. So i guess its not real unique either. We should probably stop or all the hairs will be split, hahaha

        '15 ///M3 - Daily  **** '97 ///M3 - Track Car         
        '04 330ci ZHP - sold **** '01 330ci - sold
        '00 328i - sold ********* '00 323i - totalled
        '94 325i - rear ended *** '92 318i vert - sold
        '89 325ix -parted ******* '08 e92 ///M3 - traded

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        • jc43089J
          jc43089J
          jc43089
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          #15

          I would venture to say that is not a bad thing to share some parts with other models, maintenance and performance modifications will cost less and be more available.

          2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
          3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
          '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

          '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

          '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
          '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
          '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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          • mtecnicM
            mtecnicM
            mtecnic
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            I picked it up Friday! 310 miles on and in one tank of gas :) Here's the pic:

            post-2722-0-91967500-1428947857thumb.jp

            '15 ///M3 - Daily  **** '97 ///M3 - Track Car         
            '04 330ci ZHP - sold **** '01 330ci - sold
            '00 328i - sold ********* '00 323i - totalled
            '94 325i - rear ended *** '92 318i vert - sold
            '89 325ix -parted ******* '08 e92 ///M3 - traded

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            • patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1P
              patsbimmer1
              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              That's a good looking car!

              2011 e90 M3 - DCT, Borla exhaust, BMW Performance Black Grille, ECS Painted Corners, Ziza Angel Eyes

              07 335i Stella - sport package, BMS DCI, zhp knob, TMS cf parking brake lever, VRSF downpipes, MHD tune, H&R race springs, other stuff *SOLD*

              97 328i Lola - sport package, m50 intake manifold, m50 manifold.com install kit, custom CAI, K&N filter, Borla exhaust, FK silverline coilovers, 25.5mm front sway bar, Powerflex front sway bushings, Turner Radiator, fan delete *sold*
              95 325is *sold*
              93 nissan 240sx KA-T *sold*

              BMWCCA #473306

              Instagram @patsbimmer1

              AKA- HALLWAY PAT

              "burnouts bring babes and babes dont have time for bushings" - Kaiser Rolls

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              • Ryan...R
                Ryan...R
                Ryan...
                wrote on last edited by
                #18

                Beautiful color!

                Any plans for mods? Other than lowering it a little bit I think it looks great as-is.

                2021 Gladiator Willys -- 6 speed manual, 33" Falken AT, 3/4" level

                2021 Low Rider S -- Stage 2, 117hp/128ft lbs

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                • mtecnicM
                  mtecnicM
                  mtecnic
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  Ryan... said:

                  Beautiful color!

                  Any plans for mods? Other than lowering it a little bit I think it looks great as-is.

                  This I believe will be its final state.

                  post-2722-0-96635900-1432669130thumb.jp

                  '15 ///M3 - Daily  **** '97 ///M3 - Track Car         
                  '04 330ci ZHP - sold **** '01 330ci - sold
                  '00 328i - sold ********* '00 323i - totalled
                  '94 325i - rear ended *** '92 318i vert - sold
                  '89 325ix -parted ******* '08 e92 ///M3 - traded

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                  • jc43089J
                    jc43089J
                    jc43089
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    Wow that looks good!

                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                    • i_love_carsI
                      i_love_carsI
                      i_love_cars
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      not that i'm biased or anything towards red/orange with black/carbon accents as a color scheme or anything   :P   buuuuuuuut yes, more of that. What you have there is, IMO, the only way to setup a sakhir orange car.

                      IMG6593.jpg

                      2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
                      2007 Z4MR 
                      2003 E39 M5
                      2002 E46 M3
                      2021 X5 40i

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