N54 Procede v5... thoughts?
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So I have the opportunity to buy a Procede V5 for a great price and I was wondering if any of the n54/n55 guys have used it before. Thoughts? Opinions?
I have wanted JB4 but from what I can tell these are very similar and I can buy a used Procede v5 somewhat locally for less than JB4 right now.
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COBB+WEDGE/BQ tuning FTW
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What he said ^ mike from green bay uses a proceede on his n55, maybe he will chime in
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Yeeeaahh buddie
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Hahaha you fanboys! Whats the pros of cobb over procede? I have seen your guys results but procede doesnt seem too shabby.
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I have no expierence with the procede. I did however go from the jb4 g5iso with a Wedge backend flash to the Cobb v2 with Wedge/BQ tuning. First thoughts as soon as I loaded my intial base Wedge flash was how much smoother my throttle response was and according to my butt dyno at the time,more power and smoother delivery of said power. Next is the ease of use with the Cobb for datalogging and overall flashing my car with updates as tuning with Wedge and BQ is progressive. Like I said no expierence with the proced but if its anything like the JB4 I would spend the extra cash and get a used Cobb v2 and hit up Wedge for some tuning.
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Pat I know we texted back and forth a bit last night about this but I again can't stress enough about considering what you want your car to do.
No cobb OTS map will give you more than 100 whp / 140 wtq on the dyno if you're FBO, so the only way to squeeze more out of it will be to get some custom tuning, but you are going to hit the proverbial wall very quickly without e85 and meth. Cobb only has beta maps for e85 right now, and only 30% mixture at that, and no meth control.
Beyond that, your clutch will give not long after you approach that 450 range. You also will have no hope or prayer of putting the power down unless you are also willing to throw money into the suspension/tires at minimum, and preferably install an LSD (i can't remember if your car is a pre-march 2007 build or not, but obviously will save you money if you have bolted on ring gear instead of welded).
I had the benefit of stacking up against another local guy with an identical 135 to mine, except he had LSD and wider tires. His car instantly put a length on me, while my backend just went sideways. Luckily for me he sold his car and sold me his LSD for 1700 bucks
It will feel fast to you regardless, but you will not understand just how much traction you are losing until you stack up against an identical car that HAS those mods.
Unless you are willing to invest in LSD / suspension / tires / clutch, you do not need custom tuning and OTS Maps will work just fine for you, and it will all be very similar between JB4, PROCede, and Cobb. If you aren't gonna be FBO, then the tuning solution becomes even less important - at that point nothing is being done that the DME in the ECU won't handle. Do some research on how the DME works in these cars and you will realize why they are so easy to tune and make power on, but also where some of the limits are. Terry from BMS published some very good information on this at one point. Maybe I will try to dig up the link for you.
In my opinion, if you want a standalone solution without meth, Cobb is great. A lot of people end up combining JB4 and Cobb, actually.
I wish you could've driven my N54 before/after the LSD. It was such a drastic difference. My N55 is going to be all about suspension and the track so I will probably never push myself over 350 whp. Handling will be the bigger focus.
I think for the price you noted from that guy in Chicago, the PROCede is all good. Install isn't bad and again, going back to my comments on the DME - I think you'll be perfectly happy with the tune. They're all relatively similar and no matter which way you go, if you really want something unique you can pay for some custom tuning, like michael mentioned.
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I personally wouldn't of switched to Cobb from my jb4 if Wedge wasn't doing the tuning he is with the Cobb AP. I had no intentions of running Cobb OTS maps. Never even flashed one of them to my car. The day I removed my JB4 I was already working with Bob and Wedge on my base Wedge flash via Cobb v2 AP. And I am refering to Bobdudeman for Fondu Lac. He did my backend flashes when I was running my JB4.
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I'd just like to say that I have no idea wtf anyone is talking about here. The only V5 I know of was in a Honda MotoGP bike. Cobb, wedge and flash are bad jokes just waiting to happen. JB4 = some new formulation of JB Weld? BQ = short for BBQ?
Buy an n54, it will all make sense lol
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Buy an n54, it will all make sense lol
Yep
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Buy an n54, it will all make sense lol
Not that I am biased in ANY way, but....this is sound advice if I've ever heard it
2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
2007 Z4MR
2003 E39 M5
2002 E46 M3
2021 X5 40i -
Thanks for the help everyone! For the price I can pick this up for and my goals with this car I don't think I can pass this up. Now if the guy would just return my pm's...
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Did you pick this up?
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I was going to make it a surprise but I am no good at keeping secrets... I am picking it up on Saturday and installing it with the guy to verify it works. I am PUMPED!
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Proceed with the Procede
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I'll be scouting for the scene of the crash on I-94 saturday afternoon.
2011 E92 M3 6MT ZCP - ESS 625 supercharged
2007 Z4MR
2003 E39 M5
2002 E46 M3
2021 X5 40i -
I'll be scouting for the scene of the crash on I-94 saturday afternoon.
HA! You won't find it!!!! The crash will be on i90 just north of Rockford lol
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