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1993 e36 turbo stroker long term project

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    e36t-yost
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    Hey guys my names tyler I'm 22, live in oconomowoc and just had this site mentioned to me by Cyoung.

    I've got like the title states a 1993 e36 stock motor still auto >:( gotta get the swap going still need a flywheel and shift linkage to do that recently did a compression test and cylinder 3&4 are low but it runs great so I'm not too sure what's up. Just redid my cooling system new thermostat mishimoto radiator, and ordered a new Thermostat housing in shiny aluminum still want to get a electric water pump but my paychecks aren't huge and bmw's are new to me and it's more expensive than I originally thought so it makes the process slower but I love my car. Even though keeping her happy makes me poor.

    My plans for the car are to track and drift it, so wide angle steering mods/or kit depends if I save my pennies and do it right or do it tee backyard route, coilovers before automotion this year, and dual caliper setup before next summer big brakes is an idea but hella expensive so I gotta hold off on that if anyone has any input that would be greatly appreciated oh and I'm piecing together a turbo kit one piece at a time so in time it'll be way better than it is now but I still love her

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      e36t-yost
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      Sorry title mistype shoulda been stroker* not sticker haha

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        The compression problem on 3 and 4 could be a bad head gasket

        Looking forward to following the build!

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        • YoungCRY
          YoungCRY
          YoungCR
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          Welcome! Sounds like an awesome build. The track events calendar on here will be handy once you get into those.

          Are there any budget big brake swaps from other models like a e46?

          Chris Young
          BMWCCA #458972
          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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          • DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFootD
            DrLeadFoot
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            Welcome!

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                 @DrLeadFoot

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            • EarlE
              EarlE
              Earl
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              Welcome.

              Getting more angle shouldn't be much of a problem. You can run e46 control arms and some rack spacers. E46 330 brakes are a budget big brake swap. The dual caliper idea seems like a bit overkill. Plumbing a hydraulic hand brake inline would be more cost effective and would work just fine to start with. There are a good chunk of e36 "budget" drift builds that you could look into and take ideas from.

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              • jc43089J
                jc43089J
                jc43089
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                I have e46 330 brakes on my e36, its as simple as swapping rotors, calipers and caliper brackets. For pics check the savin big money build thread. How much lower are the numbers on 3 and 4?

                Sent from my potato phone

                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                  jc43089J
                  jc43089
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                  Also check out the Stewart water pump. I have one and would recommend it.

                  Sent from my potato phone

                  2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                  3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                  '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                  '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                  '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                  '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                  '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                    e36t-yost
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                    i was getting 120 in all cylinders and 60psi in 3 and 70psi in 4. I did do the test with the engine cold in my garage in wisconsin cold cold last night, cyoung informed me that the full bandana has an m54b30 long block for my build I'm tight on cash as of late due to switching jobs but in the coming weeks my income will become more steady thankfully.

                    i was looking at doing dual calipers just to have a dedicated handbrake.

                    thanks for the update with the e46 control arms and spacers I'm going to have to look into that a little bit more, possibly hit lkq salvage in the next couple weeks.

                    and if anyone knows what kind of size upgrade do you get with the 46 brake swap??? and are the calipers the same piston number just larger or do they have more pistons on the front. I don't want to overpower a car with underpowered brakes... just a safety thing for me

                    thanks for the input guys!!!!!!

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                    • jc43089J
                      jc43089J
                      jc43089
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                      That seems really low. I would pull the head to check for headgasket/cracked head, did it have any symptoms? Most common is running roughly from a cold start and then it smooths out after a minute or two. I think the 330 brakes have the same diameter caliper piston, but the larger diameter increases brake torque, think same amount of pressure on a longer handled wrench. They are 325mm rotors, (e36 m3 is 315mm) you will most likely need 17" wheels to clear them. I have 16" contour reps and they are one of few 16's that work.

                      Sent from my potato phone

                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                        e36t-yost
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                        No, it starts rough cuz i still haven't change the oil from summer oil royal purple 15w-40 so its like sludge when it sits outside right now but in the garage starts up like its 50 degrees cuz it is in my parents garage. no rough idle when started in the garage, good power through the power band very linear... but 230k miles haha original engine had vanos redone 15k miles ago by po and its now a 4 owner car first owner had it for most of its life and sent it back to bmw to have the strut towers replaced and the 100k mile services done at 100k right near the 10 year mark he paid for shipping and what not then sold it to his friend who had it for a couple years and then sold it to the kid that i bought it from. so its in really good condition for the most part....

                        ps the kid i bought it from only had it for about 16 months and only drove it for about 3 months then bought a 4cylinder grand am cuz he wanted better gas mileage  hahaha

                        also i have 17" winter tires so for brake upgrade I'm set on rim size already

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                          e36t-yost
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                          ps if anyone can get ahold of the full bandana for me i'd really like to take that m54b30 off his hand just short on cash from changing jobs currently

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                          • wasnt m3W
                            wasnt m3W
                            wasnt m3
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                            Welcome! I live in Hartland. Let me know if you need a hand with anything!

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                              e36t-yost
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                              ok sounds good will do  once the full bandana gets back to me on that m54b30 he's trying to get rid of i'll need some help tearing my motor out! so any help would be awesome!!!

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                              • jc43089J
                                jc43089J
                                jc43089
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                                Not that it matters if you are tearing the engine down but even 120psi is low. I rebuilt my m50 a few years ago so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask, its pretty easy, just takes some patience.

                                Sent from my potato phone

                                2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                  e36t-yost
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                                  ok cool sounds good I'm tearing down the m54b30 to get the assembly out currently got all the bearings and most of the stuff in the way i just gotta get the sockets to take the rods and pistons off of the crank

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                                    jc43089J
                                    jc43089
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                                    Looking forward to this. What are your plans for cams? I put in an m54b30 intake cam but haven't gotten to drive it yet.

                                    Sent from my potato phone

                                    2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                    3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                    '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                    '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                    '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                    '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                    '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                      e36t-yost
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                                      im not sure on cams i wondering if i could get them reground to work well with the turbo?!?!? if not I'm really not sure on cams they're really expensive and are probably outside my price range currently...

                                      current important parts i need are a turbo exhaust manifold t4 preferably twin scroll cuz i got an hx45w for next to nothing in pretty good condition. intercooler thinking about going water to air but not entirely sure, need to swap the trans.

                                      also need to get crank bearings, new piston rings, maybe electric fan setup since the motor will be out should i do new engine mounts too?? 

                                      If anyones got a flywheel i have a clutch and also need the shift linkage for the swap i have everything else.

                                       and i think thats about it.... i think i have most everything like piping and what not,

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                                        jc43089J
                                        jc43089
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                                        That was my reason for going with the m54b30 intake cam, they can be found for very cheap, like under a hundred dollars.  9.8mm lift vs 9mm and the duration is longer but I forget the numbers, not quite as aggressive as an s5x cam profile but close.  The only modification to fit is shortening the vanos spline parts to match the length of the original.

                                        2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                        3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                        '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                        '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                        '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                        '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                        '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                          e36t-yost
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                                          ok nice i'll look into that, anyone have coilovers for an e36 layin around?!? or e36 interior panels i can't afford em right now but next paycheck!!!

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