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    Rowleym
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    I did not say stock Ecu tuning was for the average diy type. Not at all. Only for someone who wants to be truly invested(me) but yes it does not cost 600$

    200$ for ostrich(only necessary if you are developing XDF)

    Otherwise you can use chip burner for like 30$ or borrow one from your Honda buddy.

    Plus a datalogger that you're gonna buy anyways if you have miller tuning too haha.

    But hot damn you bought the ENTIRE miller kit for 600$???? Injectors war chip and MAF? That's a great price

    Let me finish before you reply BruH and I think you are taking it a bit too serious.

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      Rowleym
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      Have you yet to use a real nice XDF that is put together yet? It's actually really nice to work with and there is no arbitrary info at all. Very straight forward if you have tuned MAF based setups yet.

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        Rowleym
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        #58

        And like I said man you don't need a remote dyno tuner when there is a guy is rreedsville that owns his own dyno, and tunes on the side. Lots of people will vouch for him.

        I completely understand what the miller kit is about and I researched it extensively(as I did probably every single other tuning option on this platform)

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        • JeffJ
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          Jeff
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          #59

          Miller is crap end of story I don't care where the software is made the guy that made it is a dumb ass I'm sorry. And argument with engineers and machinists is fun but in the end miller is not user friendly or tuner friendly. Miller pushes to sell there tune for one set up. Ther injectors there maf. It you strive to be the same then be the same if you want to live a little then go with mega squirt.

          I will be changing to mega squirt in the future and use the miller chip in the 740il untill windows co no longer exists.

          1976 530i e12
          1990 325ix e30
          1992 325i e36
          1995 740il e38
          2001 330xi e46
          ^More to come :)

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            lagwagon
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            You are woefully misinformed/willingly ignorant. It's clear you have a HEAVY bias and haven't bothered to actually call them / do any research,

            They run generic siemens injectors, will give you a tune for any size injector you want if you work with them. Their maf is proprietary but thats because it works with the stock harness / no modification needed. You aren't "living a little" by going megasquirt, lol. You are just golng to plug in the tried and true tunes done by other people smarter than you. Be my guest, just don't spread misinformation because you are having a hissy fit and things aren't going your way. 

            There are literally thousands of cars out there running miller tunes, flashed onto a miller chip using miller software with 0 issues. If you want to have more control over your system, great, miller isn't for you. That's kind of the point of their package.

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              GunMetalGrey
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              #61

              Regardless of actual tuning capabilities I know that Miller took a huge hit in popularity when they removed the section of the website that allowed people to share tunes.
              I have used Ostrich/stock DME stuff, with a proper XDF and from my 1hr learning experience on it I would say that it is also confusing and using non logical numbers.
              I'll stick with my MS for now ;)

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                lagwagon
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                #62

                GunMetalGrey said:

                Regardless of actual tuning capabilities I know that Miller took a huge hit in popularity when they removed the section of the website that allowed people to share tunes and collaborate to have cars that ran better. 

                You mean this? Which is featured on their homepage?

                http://forums.millerperformancecars.com/index.php

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                  Rowleym
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                  #63

                  I think the point we are trying to come across is that miller is indeed NOT user friendly and not for the normal diy guy so in the end you have a stock Ecu tune.

                  If you want more than that, there are other options.

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                    Rowleym
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                    GunMetalGrey said:

                    Regardless of actual tuning capabilities I know that Miller took a huge hit in popularity when they removed the section of the website that allowed people to share tunes.

                    I have used Ostrich/stock DME stuff, with a proper XDF and from my 1hr learning experience on it I would say that it is also confusing and using non logical numbers.

                    I'll stick with my MS for now ;)

                    Totally logical numbers! I'll post screen shots. I have a very complete XDF. But for the normal guy I don't think it's worth it yet. And MAF based tuning is different for sure.

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                    • GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGreyG
                      GunMetalGrey
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                      lagwagon said:

                      You mean this? Which is featured on their homepage?

                      http://forums.millerperformancecars.com/index.php

                      There used to be a thing called the War Room. It was from a couple years ago, not sure if it's back up now, or if they reformatted. I know it was down for about a year and a lot of people were unhappy because of it.

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                        lagwagon
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                        GunMetalGrey said:

                        There used to be a thing called the War Room. It was from a couple years ago, not sure if it's back up now, or if they reformatted. I know it was down for about a year and a lot of people were unhappy because of it.

                        The War room was not taken down, the software their old web developer used had become a security issue and for payment processing reasons they had to take it down. The forum was a resurrection of that.

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                        • GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGreyG
                          GunMetalGrey
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                          #67

                          Nice, I do recall something about a security issue. Glad it's back up!

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                          • JeffJ
                            JeffJ
                            Jeff
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                            i have used the miller software for 5 years now and yes my car runs yes it is tuned but the problem is not in my car or its tune. the problem is the high school drop out that made the software and chip with horrible tables and imaginary values that mean nothing. ignorance has nothing to do with the software issues. ignorance is the definition of miller performance and there associates.

                            also calling miller performance is of no help seeing as they only help if your spending $$$$$ for there garbage.

                            if you like the war chip and its crappy software then use it.

                            if you like to keep your car the same and never strive to better something the war chip is for you bud.

                            i like the guys at miller as much as president obama  and his crap ass obamacare no changing my mine.

                            1976 530i e12
                            1990 325ix e30
                            1992 325i e36
                            1995 740il e38
                            2001 330xi e46
                            ^More to come :)

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                              lagwagon
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                              Haha man.. well, I'll take solace in knowing that the person that disagrees with me has the English abilities of a fourth grader in China, it makes me feel better about thinking the way I do. 

                              If you can't prepare a rational argument that isn't rooted deeply in ignorance, then I guess there is no point in arguing, is there?

                              So let's just agree to disagree.

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                              • JeffJ
                                JeffJ
                                Jeff
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                                #70

                                lagwagon said:

                                 English abilities of a fourth grader in China, i

                                the sad truth is that in china they start learning english in kindergarten. so i would assume that they speak it very well. I'm sorry you did not get that memo.

                                1976 530i e12
                                1990 325ix e30
                                1992 325i e36
                                1995 740il e38
                                2001 330xi e46
                                ^More to come :)

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                                • GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGreyG
                                  GunMetalGrey
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                                  #71

                                  The real question here is. 
                                  WHERE IS JEFF'S TURBO?!
                                  Does no one care anymore? The man had his turbo taken from him and all you do is bicker about tuning!

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                                    B C
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                                    I'm still trying to find Waldo

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                                    • jc43089J
                                      jc43089J
                                      jc43089
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                                      #73

                                      Seriously guys!  Settle down, use what you like on your car and if someone else doesn't like it then they can use what they like.

                                      Settle it at the track... :)

                                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                        WIBIMMERS members discussing tuning at a semi-annual get together

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                                        • JeffJ
                                          JeffJ
                                          Jeff
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                                          Snap said:

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                                          WIBIMMERS members discussing tuning at a semi-annual get together

                                          Lol wtf! So true

                                          1976 530i e12
                                          1990 325ix e30
                                          1992 325i e36
                                          1995 740il e38
                                          2001 330xi e46
                                          ^More to come :)

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