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  • ClassEC
    ClassEC
    ClassE
    wrote on last edited by
    #510

    Didn't get as much done this morning as I had hoped - but overall got stuff done! New rear bearings are in, rear axles are in - gonna eat some lunch then reassemble rear brakes and move to radiator swap I think.

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    • EarlE
      EarlE
      Earl
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      #511

      Give er hell!

      museum sig 2earl.jpg

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      • ClassEC
        ClassEC
        ClassE
        wrote on last edited by
        #512

        Early Fathers Day gift from my wife (she's the best!):

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        • B
          B
          B C
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          #513

          Im so happy for you!

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          • EarlE
            EarlE
            Earl
            wrote on last edited by
            #514

            Dat m70 manifold though

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            • ClassEC
              ClassEC
              ClassE
              wrote on last edited by
              #515

              Earl said:

              Dat m70 manifold though

              YOU SEE NOTHING!!!

              Not sure I'll be using that - might have a slight change of plans in mind for the intake manifold.... We'll see how the summer pans out.

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              • ClassEC
                ClassEC
                ClassE
                wrote on last edited by
                #516

                Shift linkage is rebuilt and back in.... And it was a monumental PITA. Thankfully it was worth the headache because the shifter feels fantastic.

                Electric fan is mounted and radiator mounting is done. Gotta figure out fan wiring and figure out what I'm gonna do for an upper rad hose.

                Hopefully tonight I can yank those rear diff spacers and remove the no longer needed accessory crank pulley. I'm assuming I should get shorter bolts to replace the existing ones - or add washers?!? Will have to figure out tonight.

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                • YoungCRY
                  YoungCRY
                  YoungCR
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #517

                  ClassE said:

                  YOU SEE NOTHING!!!

                  Not sure I'll be using that - might have a slight change of plans in mind for the intake manifold.... We'll see how the summer pans out.

                  Budget = ITB's

                  Chris Young
                  BMWCCA #458972
                  1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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                  • ClassEC
                    ClassEC
                    ClassE
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #518

                    CYoung said:

                    Budget = ITB's

                    I can neither confirm nor deny anything.

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                    • B
                      B
                      B C
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                      #519

                      Much excite!

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                      • ClassEC
                        ClassEC
                        ClassE
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #520

                        I retract my previous statements - I did not install those diff spacers when I put the subframe bushing in (josh and I both thought we saw them up there - but went to pull them out last night and realized they weren't in there after all!)

                        Driveshaft is back in now, and got front studs in.... Just gotta get exhaust up, figure out elec fan wiring, torque axle nuts all around, and get an upper rad hose sourced/spliced.

                        Lots of detail work - but if things go smooth hopefully I'll be rolling tomorrow night?!?

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                        • ClassEC
                          ClassEC
                          ClassE
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #521

                          My "Holy crap..." Moment of the evening though was when I was getting out from under the car and noticed the rear subframe bolts didn't have as much thread showing as I remembered. Threw a socket on them to check tightness.... And got another 4-5 turns out of them both!!!

                          They are now loctited.

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                          • ClassEC
                            ClassEC
                            ClassE
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #522

                            It's truly pathetic how bad I am with wiring. Need to get an electric fan wired into car, and just can't wrap around how I am supposed to do this. Spent more then an hour looking at written directions - then the wiring in the car - and got nothing accomplished. So frustrating.

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                            • jc43089J
                              jc43089J
                              jc43089
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #523

                              Are you keeping the oe aux fan? If not it's super easy. Replace the fan switch on the passenger side of the radiator with an 80/88c one (stock is 91/99c) from a 318, its plug and play. The hook the large wires that go to the oe fan to your new one.

                              Sent from my potato phone

                              2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                              3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                              '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                              '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                              '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                              '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                              '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                              • ClassEC
                                ClassEC
                                ClassE
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #524

                                jc43089 said:

                                Are you keeping the oe aux fan? If not it's super easy. Replace the fan switch on the passenger side of the radiator with an 80/88c one (stock is 91/99c) from a 318, its plug and play. The hook the large wires that go to the oe fan to your new one.Sent from my potato phone

                                I removed all the original A/C stuff including that electric fan in front. This is the write up I was following:

                                This is for 88 cabrio (late model wiring) you may be slightly different

                                Stock AC Fan wiring:

                                Brown = Ground

                                Black (at the fan) or Black/Green (after fan connector) = low speed positive feed

                                Connect your new electric fan Ground to the brown wire, if you cut off the connector connect the positive from your new electric fan to the Black/Green, if you still have the wiring after the connector use the Black.

                                Thermo switch:

                                Green/Black = power feed (must be connected)

                                Black = Low speed relay feed (the one you want to connect to the new thermo switch)

                                Black/Brown = High speed relay feed (do not connect)

                                Since your stock themoswitch in the side of the radiator has 3 pins we need to figure out what one will trigger the low speed fan relay to supply power to the new electric fan. You need to put on some spade connectors and connect the Green/Balck to either of the two posts on the back of the new thermoswitch. Then connect the Black line with a spade to the other. Tape off the Black/Brown it is not needed anymore.

                                The wiring is done in this fashion to allow the stock relays to control the new fan, also if you push the AC switch inside the cabin, you can force on the electric fan anytime you want

                                Here's what I gathered from this:

                                -Cut off the original wiring that was connected to the elec aux fan (3-wire harness with a black, brown, and red wire that was "part of" the fan).

                                -Connect the brown wire to my new electric fan ground.

                                -Connect the black wire to my new electric fan power.

                                -Cut the red wire off?!?

                                After that I'm a lost. The original thermo switch has a 3-wire harness leading to it as described above, am I cutting wires going to that switch? If so - what am I connecting them to?!? It sounds like leave the black/green wire alone... So cut the other two wires and do what with them?

                                If someone could dumb down the next steps to a kindergarten level id be eternally grateful.

                                I didn't order a different thermo switch. My original radiator has one in it (obviously) and the radiator I got from Earl had his orginal one in it. I was planning to leave the orginal thermo switch that was in the radiator in it (since Earls car is a 318 I should be fine?)

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                                • i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_carsI
                                  i_love_cars
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                                  #525

                                  wiring is my least favorite thing to work on in a car. Eventually I'll need to bite the bullet and wire up a JB4 and meth kit so I can spray, but definitely not looking forward to it. 

                                  The above instructions make perfect sense to me, however, it doesn't sound like you have exactly the same parts/setup. Without a way to visual what's what, I can't be of much use. If I could see what wires run where and how they are connected to the sensors it would make more sense :(

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                                  • ClassEC
                                    ClassEC
                                    ClassE
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #526

                                    jc43089 said:

                                    Are you keeping the oe aux fan? If not it's super easy. Replace the fan switch on the passenger side of the radiator with an 80/88c one (stock is 91/99c) from a 318, its plug and play. The hook the large wires that go to the oe fan to your new one.Sent from my potato phone

                                    Was the old electric aux fan JUST for the A/C system, or was that thermo switch there as a "safety net" to the fan clutch (if the fan clutch failed and the thermo switch hit its temp - it would kick on the elec aux fan?!?).

                                    If so - what you're describing makes perfect sense. Swap to a lower temp switch, and it'll treat the old aux elec fan as a primary cooling fan. Then it's just splice in the new fan and call it done. I'm just confused by if/what I need to change with the thermo switch (if at all?)

                                    i_love_cars said:

                                    wiring is my least favorite thing to work on in a car. Eventually I'll need to bite the bullet and wire up a JB4 and meth kit so I can spray, but definitely not looking forward to it.

                                    The above instructions make perfect sense to me, however, it doesn't sound like you have exactly the same parts/setup. Without a way to visual what's what, I can't be of much use. If I could see what wires run where and how they are connected to the sensors it would make more sense :(

                                    Swing through Oshkosh tonight - drinks are cold.

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                                    • jc43089J
                                      jc43089J
                                      jc43089
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #527

                                      ClassE said:

                                      Was the old electric aux fan JUST for the A/C system, or was that thermo switch there as a "safety net" to the fan clutch (if the fan clutch failed and the thermo switch hit its temp - it would kick on the elec aux fan?!?).

                                      If so - what you're describing makes perfect sense. Swap to a lower temp switch, and it'll treat the old aux elec fan as a primary cooling fan. Then it's just splice in the new fan and call it done. I'm just confused by if/what I need to change with the thermo switch (if at all?)

                                      You got it. The aux fan was for both. But when you have just an electric fan you want it to come on sooner. No cutting of anything except the actual fan power wires to connect them to the new fan. You can verify your thermoswitch is correct, it should have stamped on one of the hex flats "80/88". If you were really fancy you could get a 2 speed electric fan. I will try to look at a diagram tomorrow to see if the low speed relay turns off when the high comes on. If they are just both on in a high temp condition you would wire it to the low speed circuit. I just kept the oe aux fan on my e36 so it had low/high. But the e36 aux fan is way better than the e30 one.

                                      Sent from my potato phone

                                      2/94 325i Sedan, Arctic Gray: UUC LTW FW, EVO 3 and DSSR, +.020 Maxsil pistons, ASC delete, Eibach shocks/springs, 16" contour reps 238k
                                      3/93 325i Coupe, Schwarz 2, Sketchy stance action, ebay turbo, 300k
                                      '89 325i Vert, Alpine White: 5spd swapped, sold.

                                      '04 Toyota Sienna: 24V to 24V swap in progress

                                      '05 Volvo V70R, 6spd.  200k
                                      '85 Toyota LandCruiser: Lifted, gas hog. 205k
                                      '99 Nissan Maxima: 5spd, Rusty but trusty winter beater. 252k RIP.

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                                      • ClassEC
                                        ClassEC
                                        ClassE
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #528

                                        jc43089 said:

                                        You got it. The aux fan was for both. But when you have just an electric fan you want it to come on sooner. No cutting of anything except the actual fan power wires to connect them to the new fan. You can verify your thermoswitch is correct, it should have stamped on one of the hex flats "80/88". If you were really fancy you could get a 2 speed electric fan. I will try to look at a diagram tomorrow to see if the low speed relay turns off when the high comes on. If they are just both on in a high temp condition you would wire it to the low speed circuit. I just kept the oe aux fan on my e36 so it had low/high. But the e36 aux fan is way better than the e30 one.Sent from my potato phone

                                        Perfect - Thank You!!!!

                                        Took this afternoon off work to go home and hopefully get the car up and running. Looking good for having it running tonight as long as I don't hit any major hiccups. Keeping my fingers crossed!!!

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                                        • YoungCRY
                                          YoungCRY
                                          YoungCR
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #529

                                          May the force be with you!

                                          Chris Young
                                          BMWCCA #458972
                                          1986 528e/5  | 1994 530i/5 | 1995 540i/6 | 2013 X5 35d | 1998 C1500 Suburban | 1995 K2500 Suburban

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