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ClassE 1989 325IS Build Thread

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    #294

    does the sound change as you pull up on the handbrake ? 

    My original handbrake shoes had chunks missing from them

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    • ClassEC
      ClassEC
      ClassE
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      #295

      Snap said:

      does the sound change as you pull up on the handbrake ?

      My original handbrake shoes had chunks missing from them

      Not while driving.

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      • ClassEC
        ClassEC
        ClassE
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        KaiserRolls said:

        M30 swap

        Sideways squid is just as ugly.

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        • AndrewA
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          I thought my grinding/noise was a poorly adjusted ebrake shoe until i ran the car on jackstands, put my head under the rear, and heard the sound was coming from the diff.  I have a different diff in the car now, soon i will see if i improved things...

          I also have a irrationally massive hatred for the stock m20 intake manifold.  I dont care if i mess up any finely tuned Helmholtz resonance that the stock manifold provides, I want it out. It just doesnt look right to me and clutters up what could be a beautifully clean and simple engine bay.  Sign me up for any ITB development prototypes:)  I was also having turbo thoughts just last night to justify a manifold like this

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          • andyhundleyA
            andyhundleyA
            andyhundley
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            #298

            That intake manifold is beautiful! Is there any aftermarket companies that them like the one in the picture?

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            • ClassEC
              ClassEC
              ClassE
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              #299

              I haven't seen any Andy - and I've been looking.

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              • ClassEC
                ClassEC
                ClassE
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                #300

                I'm LOVING that intake mani above!!!

                I wonder what the power band would feel like to run a intake mani like that NA, with the intention if running boost in the future? I'm assuming a slight lose of low end torque, but possibly a slight gain at higher end (depending on runner length and size). I'd want internal full bell radius stacks integrated into design....

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                  Rowleym
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                  #301

                  ClassE said:

                  I'm LOVING that intake mani above!!!

                  I wonder what the power band would feel like to run a intake mani like that NA, with the intention if running boost in the future? I'm assuming a slight lose of low end torque, but possibly a slight gain at higher end (depending on runner length and size). I'd want internal full bell radius stacks integrated into design....

                  Very easy to do with m20! Especially if you aren't incorporating itbs. But I bet you 50$ that intake manifold won't flow better than stock NA.

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                  sk8 or die

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                  • ClassEC
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                    ClassE
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                    Rowleym said:

                    Very easy to do with m20! Especially if you aren't incorporating itbs. But I bet you 50$ that intake manifold won't flow better than stock NA.

                    Stock NA? You're probably right. With some standard bolt-ons tho (cam, chip tuning, bigger injectors, etc...) I wouldn't be as confident.

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                    • EarlE
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                      Earl
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                      You could make one work for a good NA build before going to a turbo, but it wouldn't be any better than the octopus besides looking better. In that case, I say do it because I am a douche and am all about looks=)

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                      • ClassEC
                        ClassEC
                        ClassE
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                        #304

                        I hate the original manifold enough I'd have no issues sacrificing some performance to change the aestethics until I had everything ready for boost. I'd like to pursue the ITB route tho if we can make it cost effective.

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                          #305

                          A log manifold will have much nicer acoustics/induction sound than the stock M20 manifold. I would do a custom log manifold before ITBs, you will still gain awesome sounds, especially when running MS with a map sensor.

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                            Rowleym
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                            #306

                            Snap said:

                            A log manifold will have much nicer acoustics/induction sound than the stock M20 manifold. I would do a custom log manifold before ITBs, you will still gain awesome sounds, especially when running MS with a map sensor. 

                            So you believe ITB's with boost wouldn't be really worth it? I could build a regular manifold this weekend... hmmm.

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                              Rowleym
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                              #307

                              And how long of runners should I build? You should help me design a plenum!

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                              • ClassEC
                                ClassEC
                                ClassE
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #308

                                I can swing buying the materials and labor for a good log mani in fall - I don't think ITB's and everything to do it "right" are my budget for this fall. :(

                                Here's what I would like to see:

                                -Tapered plenum that clears stock brake booster

                                -Velocity stacks (preferrably full bell radius that protrude "into" the plenum - but brake booster clearance could be an issue)

                                The main issue I see is the brake booster - clearing it restricts the runner lengths.

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                                • EarlE
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                                  Earl
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                                  #309

                                  http://www.massivebrakes.com/brake-systems.php?p=brake-booster-delete

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                                    Rowleym
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                                    Well we are starting on our intake manifold this weekend, and we are going to build two! At least for now. Now to find/build some velocity stacks.

                                    Would velocity stacks even matter with forced induction?

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                                      Rowleym
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                                      Earl said:

                                      http://www.massivebrakes.com/brake-systems.php?p=brake-booster-delete

                                      I should do this..

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                                        Velocity stacks are always beneficial. 

                                        Instead of removing the brake booster, I would probably opt for runners that are angled forward so that the runners and plenum clear it just fine.

                                        Im thinking buy some aluminum 130 degree mandrel bends and do a bundle of snakes like the M5, though all the snakes would be pointed towards the back of the drivers side headlight instead of all over the place.  This would not only help with the clearance issue, but it would also allow you longer runners to keep the mid-range happy

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                                        • ClassEC
                                          ClassEC
                                          ClassE
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                                          #313

                                          Earl said:

                                          http://www.massivebrakes.com/brake-systems.php?p=brake-booster-delete

                                          I'll have to read up on this more tonight - but that's a nice solution!

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