Future of ///M cars....
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Sounds like this would probably kill off any M1 successor too which is sad. Its cool they are putting out a lot more M Performance parts but that might be the only future of the entire M division
i had a feeling about this... looking back just a few weeks ago at M performance parts.. tunes, exhaust, suspension and now even LSD as a option coming soon!! (finally) future of M3 will be lego'd together..
Ben H.
E92 ///M3... aka slowmobile aka 7mpg aka motorsport woooooo
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Everyone is just losing their creativity bmw just needs to fire everyone and start fresh
1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!
1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?
1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)
1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)
1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)
1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)
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The R&D cost is getting higher than the premium that can be tacked onto the M cars. A lot of this can be blamed on certifications and such that are required of the car companies. A limited special engine has to meet all the same criteria as the ho-him mass production lump. It also counts for the same amount in the Fuel economy average, regardless of production numbers.
The world governments are killing the M Cars.
That being said, BMW does have room in it's line up for a legitimate exotic super car.....I think the M1 could still be a reality.
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cant we just go back to when traction control, abs, and air bags were optional? We managed to live without them then, what makes a congressman say yes I want all these cars to weigh more than a damn whale with all these features that must be standard we do have a head on our shoulders and can still think for ourselves... I speak for most of us, those who disagree go buy a prius.
1984 BMW 528e - SETA and manual swapped! M50 to come!!!
1988 BMW 528e - Need parts?
1991 Chevy C1500 (mighty 350 with TBI and Wisconsin weight reduction package)
1996 Mazda Miata (SOLD!!!)
1996 BMW 325i (Donor car)
1998 Chevrolet Corvette (BEAST)
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee (BROKEN)
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The 'standard' features are the car manufacturers fault....thinking that is what we want. The other stuff, airbags, crash ratings, fuel mileage, those are al lfrom the gov't
I really don't see it ever changing.
Someone asked me why we have 35mpg cars in the 90's and that is still considered high. I said, the engines have gotten a TON more efficient, but the cars weigh twice as much. Put a modern engine in a 90's era econobox and you'd have a speed machine that got 50 miles per gallon.
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The 'standard' features are the car manufacturers fault....thinking that is what we want. The other stuff, airbags, crash ratings, fuel mileage, those are al lfrom the gov't
I really don't see it ever changing.
Someone asked me why we have 35mpg cars in the 90's and that is still considered high. I said, the engines have gotten a TON more efficient, but the cars weigh twice as much. Put a modern engine in a 90's era econobox and you'd have a speed machine that got 50 miles per gallon.
Speed machine with mileage is very possible that way. I have a friend with a mk1 rabbit that has a built 1.9 diesel motor out of a mk3 jetta. It is insanely quick and gets 40-60mpg I believe.
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The R&D cost is getting higher than the premium that can be tacked onto the M cars. A lot of this can be blamed on certifications and such that are required of the car companies. A limited special engine has to meet all the same criteria as the ho-him mass production lump. It also counts for the same amount in the Fuel economy average, regardless of production numbers.
The world governments are killing the M Cars.
That being said, BMW does have room in it's line up for a legitimate exotic super car.....I think the M1 could still be a reality.
If world government is killing the M cars. Why is AMG just getting better and better? It's all about cost effectiveness to produce.
Ben H.
E92 ///M3... aka slowmobile aka 7mpg aka motorsport woooooo
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If world government is killing the M cars. Why is AMG just getting better and better? It's all about cost effectiveness to produce.
I don't agree with that. We are looking at AMG as a 'graas is greener' sort of thing. True Merc enthusiasts are probably saying the same things we are about their brand.
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