chit chat thread
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My Aunt is all in on all those conspiracy theories. I usually just ignore it, but sometimes I have to point out the gross fallacy. For awhile she was spouting about how the government and the mega rich had these super high tech healing machines and posted 'leaked' documents and images of them. I realized immediately that they were set shots and artists renderings of the machine from the Prometheus movie. I posted links and such. She simply said that the images were only representative and that she was sure they existed.
Now she's heavy on the 5G = Covid19 and Bill Gates being evil and selling Alien Technology.
Crazy.
is this a blood aunt, or in-law? if its blood, better get yerself checked.
Dan
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The aforementioned influx of social media and people just sharing anything because the title says what they agree with has really blown me away. I really enjoyed the large amount of people sharing the "Covid only has a death rate of 3%, don't let the big media fool you." A quick look at the Hopkins site (best source for numbers as far as I can tell) shows that Italy and Spain are up in the 9 to 12% death range. Sure, the US was at a 3% mortality rate at that moment, but we were so early into the spread of it.
I (to many people's annoyance) have a habit of asking further details and play devils advocate to things that are said that don't line up with what I would consider to be logical. It either leads to frustration from the other person, or leading to believe that the source is logical.
My roommate lately has been on a "the death numbers are faked or they're classifying all deaths as Covid" or other statements of suspended disbelief. When prompted with further questions it's always an "I think" answer. While having an opinion isn't wrong, it feels ignorant to be making large scale claims as someone that is in an entirely unrelated field.
It does also prompt the question of "Who do you believe?" in this whole thing. What is an unbiased source? Do they truly exist? All of the mainstream media channels will have a skew/bias, be it major or minor. Social media has both helped and hurt in that regard in my opinion, as you at least have the ability to "peer review" other people's sources.Who's to say this Dr. Fauci guy isn't being paid to say certain things? I'd like to assume he isn't, as he has stood as the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease since 1984.
Clearly I have a hard time trusting things I don't / can't verify! -
is this a blood aunt, or in-law? if its blood, better get yerself checked.
Sadly, Dads Sister. But, my dad is completely disgusted by me so I don't have a relationship there, so I'm, actually closer to this Aunt as weird as she is.
The aforementioned influx of social media and people just sharing anything because the title says what they agree with has really blown me away. I really enjoyed the large amount of people sharing the "Covid only has a death rate of 3%, don't let the big media fool you." A quick look at the Hopkins site (best source for numbers as far as I can tell) shows that Italy and Spain are up in the 9 to 12% death range. Sure, the US was at a 3% mortality rate at that moment, but we were so early into the spread of it.
I (to many people's annoyance) have a habit of asking further details and play devils advocate to things that are said that don't line up with what I would consider to be logical. It either leads to frustration from the other person, or leading to believe that the source is logical.
My roommate lately has been on a "the death numbers are faked or they're classifying all deaths as Covid" or other statements of suspended disbelief. When prompted with further questions it's always an "I think" answer. While having an opinion isn't wrong, it feels ignorant to be making large scale claims as someone that is in an entirely unrelated field.
It does also prompt the question of "Who do you believe?" in this whole thing. What is an unbiased source? Do they truly exist? All of the mainstream media channels will have a skew/bias, be it major or minor. Social media has both helped and hurt in that regard in my opinion, as you at least have the ability to "peer review" other people's sources.Who's to say this Dr. Fauci guy isn't being paid to say certain things? I'd like to assume he isn't, as he has stood as the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease since 1984.
Clearly I have a hard time trusting things I don't / can't verify!I think a lot of it has to do with what your personal agenda is (and this can be an agenda whether you realize it or not). If you generally do not trust something, say the government, you immediately latch on to any bit of info that confirms such. and with the plethora of (mis)information out there, it is easy to get the same confirmation from multiple sources.
I just always try to take a step back and get as much of the picture as I can. Then add my own sense of realism to it all. Does the government really want to control us all and become socialist? (sure, but that's besides the point) Would they kill the economy to do it? That I doubt.
Still, I love talking about it all and getting peoples opinions, some very smart people I know have wildly different views on things. I always keep in mind, that I could be wrong, and that just because we differ in opinion, doesn't mean I have to hate them. I can't discuss things with people that go off the deep end though. I can't discuss any of this with said Aunt, because she 'knows' she is right, and there is no discussion.
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Still, I love talking about it all and getting peoples opinions, some very smart people I know have wildly different views on things. I always keep in mind, that I could be wrong, and that just because we differ in opinion, doesn't mean I have to hate them. I can't discuss things with people that go off the deep end though. I can't discuss any of this with said Aunt, because she 'knows' she is right, and there is no discussion.
This reminds me of why I enjoyed working with the group of engineers I did when I worked out of our office.
We could sit and calmly discuss / debate things that we had completely opposing opinions on. No one stormed out, no one refused to talk to someone because of their opinion (well, shy of one guy) it was just good clean discussion.
It seems like that is becoming less common, and the polarizing of sides isn't helping us out at all. -
I like to find information from sources rather than news garbage, all news is biased.
CDC guidelines right from the source about classifying deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf
Excerpt: "Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not."
A personal example of how I see the numbers not being accurate. My Father in Law was working in Chicago, he and my Mother in law did not leave their house after he returned just in case. He became sick and was tested positive for COVID-19 at his employers request because they wanted him back if possible. My mother in law also got it but was refused a test for whatever reason. They are both fine now. So there were 2 cases that were only recorded as one because she didn't actually get tested and have a positive result. Also oddly he can go back to normal 72 hours after fever is gone. But she has an order to stay quarantined for 14 more days because she was around him, even though they were sick at the same time and recovered now.
Am I saying we should just ignore it all? No, but killing small businesses while so many "essential" things are excluded is BS. If they tried to shut down big business with money to fight back they know there would be push back. But the little guy doesn't have resources to fight back.
Do I wear a tinfoil hat and think the earth is flat? No, Do I trust the government to act in my best interest? Also no.
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Alright who put their summer tires on... Its snowing in Milwaukee right now.
I put the summers on the trackhawk. Had to buy new ones too because the old summers were bald.
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Alright who put their summer tires on... Its snowing in Milwaukee right now.
I put my summers on yesterday. It snowed here for a bit but its all gone now. NOT ME
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The denial is strong with this one.
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The denial is strong with this one.
Wasn't guilty last year. Not guilty this year
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Though I’m aware this isn’t WIBoaters, thought a few of you might get a kick out of this.
Pulled the engine on the boat today and stripped it down, and in addition to having no compression on cylinder 4 we found a massive crack in the side of the block that was previously hidden by the intake manifold. We knew the engine was likely toast due to two freeze plugs being popped out, but this certainly sealed it (or rather, didn’t). Not sure if any of you are into boats at all, but this is example A of why winterizing properly by opening block drains, removing the thermostat and pouring antifreeze straight in as well as pumping it through the cooling system is so important.
Another “known running” long block will go in tomorrow and/or Sunday, pending results of a compression test.
Edit: This group has such poor luck with compression tests I don’t know why I even bothered. No compression in cyls. 2 and 3, so pulled the head and found a blown head gasket and a crack between the cylinders. What fun.
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What kind of boat/motor? I'd fancy an old boat project someday
It's a 1988 Sea Ray Seville, 18ft bowrider. It has the 3.0L Mercruiser four banger/alpha one inboard/outboard combo, it's a pretty common setup for older pleasure/runabout boats. They're torquey and fast enough for what they are (35mph with a ski propeller with just me in it, still can break 30 with the boat loaded down). No hour meter, but guessing it's well below 500. It was used sparingly in the last two decades, and the first decade of its life it sat for awhile, so mechanically it's pretty fresh. There wasn't even detectable wear on the pushrods when we pulled them. Here's some pics:
It's a pretty tough and long-lived combo as long as maintenance was done, but from personal experience and observation of classified listings it usually isn't. Winterizing correctly is crucial, and it only takes one mistake to ruin a motor. Parts are dirt cheap though and they're stupid simple so for anyone handy with a wrench they're really cheap to run provided the basic stuff like the block and outdrive unit are good.
The boat itself that we have is a decent platform to start with, Sea Ray's are reasonably well made boats and have been around a long time, so finding specific parts for them is a little easier than for some of the other smaller manufacturers. They have wooden stringers and transoms though (structure of the boat), and this can cause obvious issues to the extent that if your boat has these parts rotted, you're better off throwing it away than trying to repair it generally.
If it was me, I'd look for a boat with fiberglass stringers and transom or one with known good wood ones that has been well-maintained and ideally stored inside. If you're looking for a project, something with a bad motor or drive is a much easier thing to tackle than anything else. Upholstery and carpet is ridiculously expensive to have done, so buying a "good" boat with a trashed interior is as much of a money pit or often more of one than one with a bad motor or drive.
I know this was way more long-winded than it needed to be haha, but that's the best top-level rundown I have. Finding the right project boat is a bit difficult sometimes but worth the wait and definitely worth the extra cost and time savings.
For what it's worth, the next boat I look at will be an inboard Mastercraft ski boat, either a 1983+ Stars & Stripes or a Prostar 190. All-fiberglass construction, Ford 351w power, no outdrive to worry about water intrusion into, and perfect for what I do, which is skiing. Not as practical for cruising or fishing, but it all depends on your intended use case. Being on a competitive water ski team, having an inboard ski boat to practice on is useful. This is what a Stars & Stripes looks like:
Early Prostar 190:
And a later Prostar 190:
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Cool, I had a Bayliner with a Volvo 4cyl, it had coolant in the engine and a second water pump that cycled lake water through a heat exchanger so winterizing was easy. I think a 2 stage cooling system like that is uncommon though for freshwater boats.
Yeah, that sounds like something intended more for a saltwater environment. Pretty neat though, and a lot less risky if you don't winterize properly. I certainly would prefer it!
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Didn't know you were a water skier. I've never done it but we would go watch the Mad-City ski team shows next to the Monona Terrace when I was little.
Yeah, I've been skiing since I was pretty little just with family and friends and joined Mad-City last summer at the urging of a good friend on the team. Had an absolute blast, and hoping we still get to do it this summer, although it isn't looking great.
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